Remember Me? I'm finally back

So the last time I posted here I was telling you guys how I had just taken a new job as the new Sr Sys Admin for the US for a company based out of Europe.

Well I started the job and things have been going great. They have a blade server with 4 blades hooked up to a nice big SAN, and lots of other fun toys to get my hands dirty on.


However, one area I've noticed I'm lacking in is my networking skills. I told them in my interview that I'm not a networking guy and they understand that...but for a small company, they have a pretty complex network setup. As such, it would make my job much easier if I had a better understanding of the way networks work.


Can you guys recommend a good self-study program for me to get my CCNA? I don't need/want to be a CCIE at any point, but I think getting my CCNA would make me much better at my job as it currently stands.

So what say you guys...can anybody help a brother out?


Thanks in advance!
Current Certifications:

* B.S. in Business Management
* Sec+ 2008
* MCSA

Currently Studying for:
* 70-293 Maintaining a Server 2003 Network

Future Plans:

* 70-294 Planning a Server 2003 AD
* 70-297 Designing a Server 2003 AD
* 70-647 Server 2008
* 70-649 MCSE to MCITP:EA

Comments

  • vColevCole Member Posts: 1,573 ■■■■■■■□□□
    Get some CBT Nuggets, setup GNS3 and/or get Packet Tracer and some of the Cisco Press books.

    The Cisco Academy is great ;)
  • Bl8ckr0uterBl8ckr0uter Inactive Imported Users Posts: 5,031 ■■■■■■■■□□
    The Cisco Academy is great ;)

    .. IF you have the time. I think the netcad is great for someone who either is a student or has some time on their hands. If you really want you CCNA quickly, grab the materials F2B mentioned and self study for a few months rather than go to school for a year or so.
  • darkerosxxdarkerosxx Banned Posts: 1,343
    SrSysAdmin wrote: »
    So the last time I posted here I was telling you guys how I had just taken a new job as the new Sr Sys Admin for the US for a company based out of Europe.

    Well I started the job and things have been going great. They have a blade server with 4 blades hooked up to a nice big SAN, and lots of other fun toys to get my hands dirty on.


    However, one area I've noticed I'm lacking in is my networking skills. I told them in my interview that I'm not a networking guy and they understand that...but for a small company, they have a pretty complex network setup. As such, it would make my job much easier if I had a better understanding of the way networks work.


    Can you guys recommend a good self-study program for me to get my CCNA? I don't need/want to be a CCIE at any point, but I think getting my CCNA would make me much better at my job as it currently stands.

    So what say you guys...can anybody help a brother out?


    Thanks in advance!

    You say their setup is pretty complex... are they actually using Cisco devices? What vendors u using?
  • SrSysAdminSrSysAdmin Member Posts: 259
    darkerosxx wrote: »
    You say their setup is pretty complex... are they actually using Cisco devices? What vendors u using?


    We're using some Cisco 3750s and a 7206 internally. However, our firewalls are just OpenBSD boxes.

    Really I just want to get a much better understanding of the way networking works. At the moment I'm often spinning wheels trying to grasp what we want to setup. I'm fine with the systems side of things, but I need to understand the network side much better.

    I just see the CCNA as a way to pickup this knowledge and get a valuable cert in the process.
    Current Certifications:

    * B.S. in Business Management
    * Sec+ 2008
    * MCSA

    Currently Studying for:
    * 70-293 Maintaining a Server 2003 Network

    Future Plans:

    * 70-294 Planning a Server 2003 AD
    * 70-297 Designing a Server 2003 AD
    * 70-647 Server 2008
    * 70-649 MCSE to MCITP:EA
  • Bl8ckr0uterBl8ckr0uter Inactive Imported Users Posts: 5,031 ■■■■■■■■□□
    SrSysAdmin wrote: »
    We're using some Cisco 3750s and a 7206 internally. However, our firewalls are just OpenBSD boxes.

    Really I just want to get a much better understanding of the way networking works. At the moment I'm often spinning wheels trying to grasp what we want to setup. I'm fine with the systems side of things, but I need to understand the network side much better.

    I just see the CCNA as a way to pickup this knowledge and get a valuable cert in the process.

    Is it just *BSD using PF PF: The OpenBSD Packet Filter or is it using something like m0n0wall or pfSense Open Source Firewall Distribution - Home (pfsense is based on FreeBSD I believe). It might help to read those links so you can better understand whats going on.

    I suggest that you pick up Network Warrior and a few CCNA books.
  • rogue2shadowrogue2shadow Member Posts: 1,501 ■■■■■■■■□□
    I can vouch for the Cisco Network Academy. It definitely helped get me the understanding I wanted about Cisco devices on the CCNA level.
  • SrSysAdminSrSysAdmin Member Posts: 259
    knwminus wrote: »
    Is it just *BSD using PF PF: The OpenBSD Packet Filter or is it using something like m0n0wall or pfSense Open Source Firewall Distribution - Home (pfsense is based on FreeBSD I believe). It might help to read those links so you can better understand whats going on.

    I suggest that you pick up Network Warrior and a few CCNA books.

    It is OpenBSD using PF...I will check out the link you provided, thanks for that.
    Current Certifications:

    * B.S. in Business Management
    * Sec+ 2008
    * MCSA

    Currently Studying for:
    * 70-293 Maintaining a Server 2003 Network

    Future Plans:

    * 70-294 Planning a Server 2003 AD
    * 70-297 Designing a Server 2003 AD
    * 70-647 Server 2008
    * 70-649 MCSE to MCITP:EA
  • Bl8ckr0uterBl8ckr0uter Inactive Imported Users Posts: 5,031 ■■■■■■■■□□
    SrSysAdmin wrote: »
    It is OpenBSD using PF...I will check out the link you provided, thanks for that.

    No problem. There is also a book coming out in a few weeks
    Amazon.com: The Book of PF: A No-Nonsense Guide to the OpenBSD Firewall (9781593272746): Peter N.M. Hansteen: Books
  • SrSysAdminSrSysAdmin Member Posts: 259
    knwminus wrote: »


    Excellent, that will be very helpful...now I just need enough time to read it!
    Current Certifications:

    * B.S. in Business Management
    * Sec+ 2008
    * MCSA

    Currently Studying for:
    * 70-293 Maintaining a Server 2003 Network

    Future Plans:

    * 70-294 Planning a Server 2003 AD
    * 70-297 Designing a Server 2003 AD
    * 70-647 Server 2008
    * 70-649 MCSE to MCITP:EA
  • earweedearweed Member Posts: 5,192 ■■■■■■■■■□
    Welcome back.
    No longer work in IT. Play around with stuff sometimes still and fix stuff for friends and relatives.
  • rogue2shadowrogue2shadow Member Posts: 1,501 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Welcome back homie.
  • HeeroHeero Member Posts: 486
    The cisco netcad worked well for me. While the CCNA may focus on Cisco devices, you certainly get a very strong view of networking in general. Since you don't need the specifics on configuring devices as much as the theory, I think the CCNA would do you well, but you will get some possibly unneeded Cisco proprietary stuff.
  • thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I would really get some lab equipment and play around. I would set some things up at home. Read Cisco Press books. Make sure to practice alot. CBT Nuggets and Train Signals is a good start as well.
    CCNA, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, MCDST, MCITP Enterprise Administrator, Working towards Networking BS. CCNP is Next.
  • brad-brad- Member Posts: 1,218
    thenjduke wrote: »
    I would really get some lab equipment and play around. I would set some things up at home. Read Cisco Press books. Make sure to practice alot. CBT Nuggets and Train Signals is a good start as well.

    Does anyone know if CBT Nuggets or Trainsignal is better? I used CBT for 2k3 and TS for Exchange 07 - TS was a better product, but more expensive. Just curious if anyone had first hand with either for CCNA/CCENT.
  • phoeneousphoeneous Member Posts: 2,333 ■■■■■■■□□□
    brad- wrote: »
    Does anyone know if CBT Nuggets or Trainsignal is better? I used CBT for 2k3 and TS for Exchange 07 - TS was a better product, but more expensive. Just curious if anyone had first hand with either for CCNA/CCENT.

    For CCNA? I liked ts better. Chris Bryant seemed to cover the topics more in depth than Jeremy Ciora did. But both are still great videos.
  • darkerosxxdarkerosxx Banned Posts: 1,343
    SrSysAdmin wrote: »
    We're using some Cisco 3750s and a 7206 internally. However, our firewalls are just OpenBSD boxes.

    Really I just want to get a much better understanding of the way networking works. At the moment I'm often spinning wheels trying to grasp what we want to setup. I'm fine with the systems side of things, but I need to understand the network side much better.

    I just see the CCNA as a way to pickup this knowledge and get a valuable cert in the process.

    In that case, the CCNA material will help you out a lot. I've perused tons of CCNA material and videos. The only ones I would suggest are:

    CBT Nuggets

    Jeremy Cioara is the sh*t.
  • zerglingszerglings Member Posts: 295 ■■■□□□□□□□
    knwminus wrote: »
    .. IF you have the time. I think the netcad is great for someone who either is a student or has some time on their hands. If you really want you CCNA quickly, grab the materials F2B mentioned and self study for a few months rather than go to school for a year or so.

    Studying for a few months will mean that you're gonna be spending more time studying than going to school once a week and study for an hour or two before the quizzes. Nothing beats instructor-led in my opinion.
    :study: Life+
  • Bl8ckr0uterBl8ckr0uter Inactive Imported Users Posts: 5,031 ■■■■■■■■□□
    zerglings wrote: »
    Studying for a few months will mean that you're gonna be spending more time studying than going to school once a week and study for an hour or two before the quizzes. Nothing beats instructor-led in my opinion.

    I suppose. I think that for the most part if you are motivated, you can get a lot out of self study.
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