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I have never work on a server so I am not sure exactly what kind of PCI slot they have.

I bought a Adaptec ANA-62044 NIC and my motherboard is an Intel motherboard. My motherboard has 3 PCI slots, and when I installed the NIC onto my motherboard, the last portion of the NIC's pins are sticking out. Meaning, it is too long. The NIC seated well, but the last part is not.
Would the ANA-62044 NIC work even though the last portion is not connected?


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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    The Adaptec card is a 64 bit PCI card and you've only got 32 bit PCI slots. You don't normally find 64 bit PCI slots on anything except servers and high end workstations.

    It *should* work but thats assuming the card fits properly, nothing is in the way of the extra connector and your motherboard complies with PCI 2.1.

    TL;DR is "depends"
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    Yes, it is seated properly on the PCI slot. So it should work then. The last portion is bothering me.
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thehourman wrote: »
    Yes, it is seated properly on the PCI slot. So it should work then. The last portion is bothering me.
    The exposed card edge is fine. It looks weird and dangerous but you should be okay with it assuming nothing is nearby.

    You get similar things happening for PCI Express as well. Some PCI Express slots are open at one end and the chipset + card will just negotiate however many lanes are actually physically connected. The rest of the card edge connector just dangles out the end of the slot.
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    Ok cool. Thanks man.
    I am more familiar with PCIe than PCI slots.
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    When I have the ANA-62044 installed, the PC would just beep twice with no display, but everything turns on.
    When I removed the NIC, the PC booted up just fine. Any idea why I can't boot with the ANA-62044 installed?
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thehourman wrote: »
    When I have the ANA-62044 installed, the PC would just beep twice with no display, but everything turns on.
    When I removed the NIC, the PC booted up just fine. Any idea why I can't boot with the ANA-62044 installed?
    What motherboard do you have?

    Adaptec say the ANA-62044 will work in a 32 bit slot but it has be PCI 2.1 compliant.
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    tiersten wrote: »
    What motherboard do you have?

    Adaptec say the ANA-62044 will work in a 32 bit slot but it has be PCI 2.1 compliant.
    I got Intel BOXDH67CL LGA 1155 Intel H67 motherboard.
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thehourman wrote: »
    I got Intel BOXDH67CL LGA 1155 Intel H67 motherboard.
    Hmm. Not sure. Intel list that DH67CL board as PCI 2.3 compliant. The keying on the ANA-62044 say it is a universal card but the specs by Adaptec say it is a 5V card but that shouldn't be a problem even if it is 5V only.

    What type of beep is it?
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    tiersten wrote: »
    Hmm. Not sure. Intel list that DH67CL board as PCI 2.3 compliant. The keying on the ANA-62044 say it is a universal card but the specs by Adaptec say it is a 5V card but that shouldn't be a problem even if it is 5V only.

    What type of beep is it?
    Two short beeps. I waited a little longer, but it didn't beep again, so just two beeps.
    According to Intel, two beeps means no display.

    I played in the BIOS, but I did not see any option about this. I think the PC is treating the NIC as a video card or something.
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    Here's an update. I moved the NIC to the last PCI slot, and turned the PC on, it booted up normal; but the ifconfig is not recognising the NIC.
    I don't know how to view the NIC ports on Linux. How do I do this under Ubuntu 10.10?

    When I plugged an cat5e cable the led for that port tuned on. So it means it is working. Now, how do I install the drivers for this?
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thehourman wrote: »
    I don't know how to view the NIC ports on Linux.
    ifconfig -a

    I don't use Ubuntu so I don't know the exact filenames of the logs since its configurable but look at /var/log/boot and /var/log/messages

    As root:

    tail -1000 /var/log/boot | less

    tail -1000 /var/log/messages | less

    dmesg | less
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    EssendonEssendon Member Posts: 4,546 ■■■■■■■■■■
    Is there anything you DONT know, tiersten???

    bowing.gif Man, I am in awe of your breadth and depth of knowledge. bowing.gif
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    MentholMooseMentholMoose Member Posts: 1,525 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Run lspci and see if the NIC shows up.
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    gatewaygateway Member Posts: 232
    Essendon wrote: »
    Is there anything you DONT know, tiersten???

    bowing.gif Man, I am in awe of your breadth and depth of knowledge. bowing.gif

    That's what i thought :D
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    Man, I thought the this site is down. I can't access this site from my home. First of all, am I being blocked by TE? I am currently not home, but I'm gonna try to reset my browser's cache, history, stuff.

    Oh I still can't see my 62044 under Ubuntu. When I get home I'm going to check the dev folder.
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thehourman wrote: »
    Man, I thought the this site is down. I can't access this site from my home. First of all, am I being blocked by TE? I am currently not home, but I'm gonna try to reset my browser's cache, history, stuff.
    The site has occasionally been slow for a few minutes but I don't believe its been down. PM Webmaster to check for any blocks.
    thehourman wrote: »
    Oh I still can't see my 62044 under Ubuntu. When I get home I'm going to check the dev folder.
    Network interfaces don't appear in /dev. It has its own namespace which isn't part of the usual devices. Its just how it was implemented originally.
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    So is there a way to see if my NIC is functional in Ubuntu?
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thehourman wrote: »
    So is there a way to see if my NIC is functional in Ubuntu?
    Run the commands I posted above and the one MentholMoose mentioned.

    "ifconfig -a" will show you all the network interfaces that are currently recognised.

    "lspci" will show you everything that Linux can see on the PCI bus.
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    I'm not at my home now, but I did run the ifconfig -a, sudo ifconfig, and they only showed my eth0 and lo.

    When I get home, I'm gonna try the lspci. Is that the whole command "lspci"?
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    thehourmanthehourman Member Posts: 723
    tiersten wrote: »
    Run the commands I posted above and the one MentholMoose mentioned.

    "ifconfig -a" will show you all the network interfaces that are currently recognised.

    "lspci" will show you everything that Linux can see on the PCI bus.
    This is the ifconfig -a output: 
    eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 70:71:bc:f1:cb:f5  
          inet addr:192.168.1.254  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::7271:bcff:fef1:cbf5/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:4674 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:121607 (121.6 KB)  TX bytes:6035306 (6.0 MB)
          Interrupt:20 Memory:fe500000-fe520000 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:1200 (1.2 KB)  TX bytes:1200 (1.2 KB)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:18:e1:05:1a  
          inet addr:192.168.1.253  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
    I manually gave an ip address to wlan0 in the /etc/network/interfaces. That is my Asus USB wireless adapter. For some reason I can't connect wirelessly to my network, and the wireless option in the system tray is greyed out. Regular ifconfig can't see the wlan0. I can ping it, though.

    This is the lspci output: 
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point HECI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b4)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Cougar Point LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Cougar Point SMBus Controller (rev 04)
01:00.0 PCI bridge: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. Device 8892 (rev 10)
02:02.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154 (rev 02)
04:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03)
    This is the lspci -v | less output 
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller (rev 09)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
        Kernel modules: intel-agp

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45
        Memory at fe000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
        Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        I/O ports at f000 [size=64]
        Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: i915
        Kernel modules: i915

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point HECI Controller #1 (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
        Memory at fe529000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16]
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 42
        Memory at fe500000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
        Memory at fe528000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        I/O ports at f080 [size=32]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: e1000e
        Kernel modules: e1000e

00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
        Memory at fe527000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44
        Memory at fe520000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
        Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport
        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0
        Memory behind bridge: fe400000-fe4fffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport
        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
        Memory at fe526000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Cougar Point LPC Controller (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt

00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 43
        I/O ports at f0d0 [size=8]
        I/O ports at f0c0 [size=4]
        I/O ports at f0b0 [size=8]
        I/O ports at f0a0 [size=4]
        I/O ports at f060 [size=32]
        Memory at fe525000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ahci
        Kernel modules: ahci

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Cougar Point SMBus Controller (rev 04)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
        Memory at fe524000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        I/O ports at f040 [size=32]
        Kernel modules: i2c-i801

01:00.0 PCI bridge: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. Device 8892 (rev 10) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=01, secondary=02, subordinate=03, sec-latency=32
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel modules: shpchp

02:02.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
        Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=32
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel modules: shpchp

04:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 30)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2003
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
        Memory at fe400000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
        Kernel modules: xhci-hcd

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