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wedge1988
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hey, it's happened before! ... not that i like to make a habit of this..
heres my question..
and i'm shortening it, but it should make sense..
In the boson test software for the ccna, a question asks about a network setup. the answers are:
1. can use any ip address between 192.168.11.193 and 192.168.11.223
2. can use any ip address between 192.168.11.193 and 192.168.11.222
now, the VLSM is /27 so to me, that makes the network break up into 32 host chunks..
so why am i asking?
am i going crazy? the answer was apparently number 2 above.
I'm sure it should really be number 1?
if it goes in 32 host chunks then it should be 192-224, where 192 and 224 are not usable but the other addresses are?
anybody else here think the software is wrong?
cheers!
heres my question..
and i'm shortening it, but it should make sense..
In the boson test software for the ccna, a question asks about a network setup. the answers are:
1. can use any ip address between 192.168.11.193 and 192.168.11.223
2. can use any ip address between 192.168.11.193 and 192.168.11.222
now, the VLSM is /27 so to me, that makes the network break up into 32 host chunks..
so why am i asking?
am i going crazy? the answer was apparently number 2 above.
I'm sure it should really be number 1?
if it goes in 32 host chunks then it should be 192-224, where 192 and 224 are not usable but the other addresses are?
anybody else here think the software is wrong?
cheers!
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Optionsearweed Member Posts: 5,192 ■■■■■■■■■□32 host addresses would have you going from 192-223. It's a simple error.No longer work in IT. Play around with stuff sometimes still and fix stuff for friends and relatives.
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Optionscapitanuionut Member Posts: 55 ■■□□□□□□□□32 host addresses would have you going from 192-223. It's a simple error.
It is possible to be an error.
EDIT:
Sorry about this...i am totally wrong...i was thinking at the gateway address that is a recomandation to use the last one. .223 is the broadcast address and this is a rule. .192 network address so the hosts lay between 193 - 222. -
OptionsCodeBlox Member Posts: 1,363 ■■■■□□□□□□It's a simple error.
223 is the broadcast address
To find the number of host the method is 2^x - 2. So there are 30 usable IP addresses, 192.168.11.193 - 192.168.11.222 . It's not a "simple error" and choice 2 is correct.Currently reading: Network Warrior, Unix Network Programming by Richard Stevens -
OptionsChris_ Member Posts: 326Quote:
""""""Depends, maybe it reffers to host addresses and takes account about the broadcast address of the network, .223 will be the broadcast address of this network. But this is not a rule, more a recommandation to use the last useable address as the broadcast address.
It is possible to be an error."""
I think you'll find that this is a rule!!!!Going all out for Voice. Don't worry Data; I'll never forget you
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Optionsearweed Member Posts: 5,192 ■■■■■■■■■□The simple error was that he had 32 addresses and said it went from 192-224 when that would be 33 addresses.No longer work in IT. Play around with stuff sometimes still and fix stuff for friends and relatives.
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Optionscapitanuionut Member Posts: 55 ■■□□□□□□□□Quote:
""""""Depends, maybe it reffers to host addresses and takes account about the broadcast address of the network, .223 will be the broadcast address of this network. But this is not a rule, more a recommandation to use the last useable address as the broadcast address.
It is possible to be an error."""
I think you'll find that this is a rule!!!!
I was thinking of something else, and i also edited...sorry again, my bad!!! -
OptionsCodeBlox Member Posts: 1,363 ■■■■□□□□□□
if it goes in 32 host chunks then it should be 192-224, where 192 and 224 are not usable but the other addresses are?
anybody else here think the software is wrong?
cheers!Currently reading: Network Warrior, Unix Network Programming by Richard Stevens -
Optionschopsticks Member Posts: 389hey, it's happened before! ... not that i like to make a habit of this..
heres my question..
and i'm shortening it, but it should make sense..
In the boson test software for the ccna, a question asks about a network setup. the answers are:
1. can use any ip address between 192.168.11.193 and 192.168.11.223
2. can use any ip address between 192.168.11.193 and 192.168.11.222
now, the VLSM is /27 so to me, that makes the network break up into 32 host chunks..
so why am i asking?
am i going crazy? the answer was apparently number 2 above.
I'm sure it should really be number 1?
if it goes in 32 host chunks then it should be 192-224, where 192 and 224 are not usable but the other addresses are?
anybody else here think the software is wrong?
cheers!
I find it interesting, and did some workings on it:
11000000 . 10101000 . 00001011 . 11000001 = 192.168.11.193
11111111 . 11111111 . 11111111 . 11100000 = 255.255.255.224 (/27)
AND them
11000000 . 10101000 . 00001011 . 11000000 = 192.168.11.192
So we know 192.168.11.192 is the Network ID now.
Hence, we will also know that the next network address from it will be the first valid host:
11000000 . 10101000 . 00001011 . 11000001 = 192.168.11.193
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11000000 . 10101000 . 00001011 . 11011110 = 192.168.11.222
11000000 . 10101000 . 00001011 . 11011111 = 192.168.11.223
Therefore, we also get to know that 192.168.11.223 is the broadcast address for this range of IP addresses, and 192.168.222 will be the last valid host in this range.
So, I will choose (2) as my final answer. -
Optionswedge1988 Member Posts: 434 ■■■□□□□□□□haha, you guys have gone all out on this havn't you? I actually re-thought this 20 mins later and just got home so..
lol.
thanks for the help anyway ^_^
yeh i knew 192 is the network address
yeh i recalculated and did 223 as the broadcast.
this is where i went wrong:
1. didnt include 192 as the network mask.
2. did this: 192+8 = 200 + 24 = 224
3. DUH! 192 is an address too!
lol. i guess the lesson here is don't attempt to rush a test before you go out!~ wedge1988 ~ IdioT Certified~
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Optionswedge1988 Member Posts: 434 ■■■□□□□□□□32 host addresses would have you going from 192-223. It's a simple error.
and i agree, as stated above hahahaha.
IT WAS A SIMPLE ERROR "CodeBlox" ^.- lolz.~ wedge1988 ~ IdioT Certified~
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