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Subneting ?

themagiconethemagicone Member Posts: 674
I thought I got the whole thing down till now... (it could be labsim, I've found many errors with their CCNA training)

If I have say a /22 or /23 network, what is the proper step for the subnets?
I get 2 for /23 and 4 for /22. That would give me .0.0, .2.0, .4.0 and 0.0, 4.0, 8.0, respectively. Or is that wrong? Labsim is telling me that it is 4 and 8.

I write myself a chart to help
Bit 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Count Number 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 0
Mask Number 128 192 224 240 248 252 254 255
Host/Net 126 65 30 14 6 2 1 0
Subnets 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 192

Sorry, kinda of hard to put it in here.

So going by that chart a /23 would be in the 2nd to last column or 2 count.

Am I way off?
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    JollycorkJollycork Member Posts: 149
    here's a link:

    http://www.techexams.net/forums/ccna-ccent/38772-subnetting-made-easy.html


    it's a really good writeup for subnetting.

    here's an except from that subnetting writeup:
    Just memorize how many items you get for each number of bits (subtract two for hosts)

    000000000001 = 2 (1)
    000000000011 = 4 (2)
    000000000111 = 8 (3)
    000000001111 = 16 (4)
    000000011111 = 32 (5)
    000000111111 = 64 (6)
    000001111111 = 128 (7)
    000011111111 = 256 (8 )
    000111111111 = 512 (9)
    001111111111 = 1024 (10)
    011111111111 = 2048 (11)
    111111111111 = 4096 (12)
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    themagiconethemagicone Member Posts: 674
    Ah thanks. I think labsim has yet another error. That chart is off on the subnet step number. I'd be 4 and 8 according to that other post.The chart the gave was 2 and 4, offset to left by one.
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    instant000instant000 Member Posts: 1,745
    I thought I got the whole thing down till now... (it could be labsim, I've found many errors with their CCNA training)

    If I have say a /22 or /23 network, what is the proper step for the subnets?
    I get 2 for /23 and 4 for /22. That would give me .0.0, .2.0, .4.0 and 0.0, 4.0, 8.0, respectively. Or is that wrong? Labsim is telling me that it is 4 and 8.

    I write myself a chart to help
    Bit 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
    Count Number 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 0
    Mask Number 128 192 224 240 248 252 254 255
    Host/Net 126 65 30 14 6 2 1 0
    Subnets 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 192

    Sorry, kinda of hard to put it in here.

    So going by that chart a /23 would be in the 2nd to last column or 2 count.

    Am I way off?

    /30 is 255.255.252.0
    /29 is 255.255.248.0
    /28 is 255.255.240.0
    /27 is 255.255.224.0
    /26 is 255.255.192.0
    /25 is 255.255.128.0
    /24 is 255.255.255.0
    /23 is 255.255.254.0
    /22 is 255.255.252.0
    /21 is 255.255.248.0
    /20 is 255.255.240.0
    /19 is 255.255.224.0
    /18 is 255.255.192.0
    /17 is 255.255.128.0
    /16 is 255.255.0.0
    /15 is 255.254.0.0
    /14 is 255.252.0.0
    /13 is 255.248.0.0
    /12 is 255.240.0.0
    /11 is 255.224.0.0
    /10 is 255.192.0.0
    /9 is 255.128.0.0
    /8 is 255.0.0.0
    /7 is STOP! no such thing!

    So, anyway, on to your point:

    /23 uses this mask: 255.255.254.0

    Block size is this: 2.0

    /22 uses this mask: 255.255.252.0

    Block size is this: 4.0

    Look at this one:

    255.255.255.252, which is a /30

    Block size is still 4
    0.0
    0.4
    0.8
    0.12
    0.16
    0.20
    0.24
    ... etc.

    Let me know if you still don't understand this explanation.

    Block size is 256 - the interesting octet

    When ever I get confused, I use binary and do it manually, but having the masks and block sizes memorized helps a lot.
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    SurferdudeHBSurferdudeHB Member Posts: 199 ■■■□□□□□□□
    What's the Host/Net 126 65 30 14 6 2 1 0 used for?
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    jwashington1981jwashington1981 Member Posts: 137
    What's the Host/Net 126 65 30 14 6 2 1 0 used for?

    Not clear on exactly what you're asking there.
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    instant000instant000 Member Posts: 1,745
    What's the Host/Net 126 65 30 14 6 2 1 0 used for?

    I think it's supposed to be number of hosts per network, but it is wrong.

    Should be this:
    mask use: /25 /26 /27 /28 /29 /30
    block size: 128 064 032 016 008 004 --- ---
    no. hosts: 126 062 030 014 006 002 --- ---

    You can't support hosts with a /31 or /32

    There is an RFC to allow the usage of a /31 on point-to-point links, but as far as I know, no one implements it.

    And, a /32 refers to a specific host, and isn't a network.
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