How much would you pay this person

sizeon

Ok so how do i negotiate a higher pay? My co-worker has no degree, only 1 year IT experience, A+ and Net+ certification and gets paid $45,000.

Akaricloud

Tell management something like:

You love working for the company but are starting to feel undervalued. You could easily make more at another company but would rather remain loyal to them and continue with your current position.

Add in a few other things such as how you're sure he/she knows the importance of making their employees feel valued in order to keep high moral and retain employees.

Basically remind them of the benefits of paying you more while saying good things about them and the company.

Iristheangel

sizeon wrote: »

Ok so how do i negotiate a higher pay? My co-worker has no degree, only 1 year IT experience, A+ and Net+ certification and gets paid $45,000.

I certainly don't mean this in a mean way: What do you bring to the table that makes you deserve more money? From your posts, you've had a hard time getting jobs and when you did get one, it wasn't paying anywhere near market value. Sometimes that can be attributed to the market but you're in a good area for IT jobs. What I would recommend BEFORE asking for more money is to take a hard look at what you can do to make yourself worth more in your employer's eyes. Evaluate your professional demeanor, hygiene, wardrobe, communication skills, leadership skills, positive/negative attitude, education, writing style, etc. You can have years of experience but if you show up with unprofessional attire or have a negative attitude, you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

Keener

Iristheangel wrote: »

I certainly don't mean this in a mean way: What do you bring to the table that makes you deserve more money? From your posts, you've had a hard time getting jobs and when you did get one, it wasn't paying anywhere near market value. Sometimes that can be attributed to the market but you're in a good area for IT jobs. What I would recommend BEFORE asking for more money is to take a hard look at what you can do to make yourself worth more in your employer's eyes. Evaluate your professional demeanor, hygiene, wardrobe, communication skills, leadership skills, positive/negative attitude, education, writing style, etc. You can have years of experience but if you show up with unprofessional attire or have a negative attitude, you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

I agree with this.

to OP: I am not saying you are this way as I do not know you, but a lot of people have the thought process (quoted from a book The Slight Edge): "Give me the power and I will do the thing." Instead, it should be, "Do the thing and I will have the power." Translated: take the steps/show the initiative and prove to them you can handle it/give you the chance.

I used to feel this way. I used to have the attitude that I just needed someone to give me the chance and I will show them that I deserve it. Now I have learned to do the extra studies and show initiative/interest in new areas/opportunities. Easy ways to do this are to ask questions, study at home, and/or look for problems that you can fix/work on that are typically not your duties.

One thing I would avoid is to put in a lot of extra time at work. This usually leads to the employer expecting this kind of work with little reward. I have seen this happen a few times. My last boss would work 6-7 days a week just to try and keep up. What did it get him? More work. When the IT Director left the company, they didn't replace her and my boss received a lot of her workload.

Good Luck!

sizeon

I have more knowledge than some of my fellow employees. For example, i am the only one in help desk that knows cisco and basic linux administration (solaris). I am the youngest guy in there so i have longevity.

sizeon

Iristheangel wrote: »

I certainly don't mean this in a mean way: What do you bring to the table that makes you deserve more money? From your posts, you've had a hard time getting jobs and when you did get one, it wasn't paying anywhere near market value. Sometimes that can be attributed to the market but you're in a good area for IT jobs. What I would recommend BEFORE asking for more money is to take a hard look at what you can do to make yourself worth more in your employer's eyes. Evaluate your professional demeanor, hygiene, wardrobe, communication skills, leadership skills, positive/negative attitude, education, writing style, etc. You can have years of experience but if you show up with unprofessional attire or have a negative attitude, you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

I definitely have an accent since I am hispanic. Maybe that hinders my communication skills?

Tackle

Being bilingual is a positive, use it to your advantage. If you can speak fluent in English and Spanish, put that in the resume.

QHalo

Considering that I know for a fact that someone with less responsibilities made around 50k in Chicago, I would go with 55-60k in NYC. That's realistic. If you've made it 4 years and you didn't have 10 jobs in that period of time, I would say you were probably worth that much especially in a city like New York.

petedude

Iristheangel wrote: »

I certainly don't mean this in a mean way: What do you bring to the table that makes you deserve more money?

+1 to what Iristheangel said. Realize it's not just about what's fair or what you're "worth", but also marketing-- can you sell yourself to potential employers?

MiikeB

QHalo wrote: »

Considering that I know for a fact that someone with less responsibilities made around 50k in Chicago, I would go with 55-60k in NYC. That's realistic. If you've made it 4 years and you didn't have 10 jobs in that period of time, I would say you were probably worth that much especially in a city like New York.

Flawed logic, the guy in Chicago might be overpaid or his company just puts more emphasis on pay and less on benefits, or values IT different.

QHalo

MiikeB wrote: »

Flawed logic, the guy in Chicago might be overpaid or his company just puts more emphasis on pay and less on benefits, or values IT different.

Flawed logic? I knew the guy, knew the hiring manager and also worked there as well. I also knew what they pay the same guys in our NYC office. I'd say I can back that up with empirical evidence.

drkat

Bleh it's all relative I guess. I got a buddy in Chicago that works for AMTRAK and he is like in government relations or some *** and they only pay him like $60K

sizeon

im going to ask for $45,000. Hope they dont fire me, lol.