How to quit a job for another one?

sizeon

The truth is i want to leave my job for another because it pays more money. When you guys go to interview and if they ask why you want to leave your current job what do you say? Also, what do you tell your boss when you are going to leave?

vanquish23

The truth. You let your new job know that your looking for more experience. Once you get a offer, you should (but don't have to) submit a 2 week notice and tell your manager that you were offered a new job with more experience.

J_86

I would say something like; 'I learned a lot at company zxy, they are really great. I'm just looking to expand on my skills and further my career".

Don't say something negative about the company you work for now, keep it professional. As far as to what to tell you current boss, just be honest. Tell them you are moving on for better pay, more experience..whatever your reasoning. Try and give a two week notice, don't burn any bridges, you never know when you may meet again.

onesaint

^^ What J_86 said.

Don't say anything negative about the company you're at. Do give 2 weeks or more notice to ensure no burnt bridges. Don't take the "would you stay for more money?" offer your current company might make.

More experience means better income. The words can be synonymous in these business conversations.

PsychoFin

In my experience, considering a counter offer is never worth it. Hand in your notice, keep it professional and move on.

Essendon

Agree with the others, NEVER entertain a counter offer. If your current employer really wanted to keep you, they should've upped your salary and give you more experience. They didnt give you this and now that you've made up your mind, just turn your notice in and scamper!

Also ensure you've a signed offer before turning your notice in. Dont just go with a verbal offer.

jibbajabba

sizeon wrote: »

what do you tell your boss when you are going to leave?

Depends.

1. What does your contract say
2. When do YOU want to leave - do you feel obligated to stay longer for the handover and is your new company willing to wait

vanquish23 wrote: »

The truth. You let your new job know that your looking for more experience.

It is more like "Make it sound like the truth". You imply that this is because he is after more experience, might not be necessarily the truth

J_86 wrote: »

Don't say something negative about the company you work for now

Made that mistake once - guess what - didn't get it even though they needed / wanted me.

J_86 wrote: »

don't burn any bridges, you never know when you may meet again.

Good avise - managed to get hired in a new company and a COLLEAGUE ended up being my manager in the new job - world's small sometimes.

PsychoFin wrote: »

In my experience, considering a counter offer is never worth it.

Essendon wrote: »

Agree with the others, NEVER entertain a counter offer. If your current employer really wanted to keep you, they should've upped your salary and give you more experience.

Very true - if they think you are worth it, you'd have that salary by now anyway - if not and they offer you more, I'd think they screwed with me all along or worse still, they now think you are overpaid which might affect things like bonuses / progress in the company

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So, what would I say - it can sometimes be tricky, especially, if it is like in my case, you are moving to a company which clearly does the same thing.
Finding a good reason (hate my job / manager doesn't count) is hard sometimes.

I said that my job role has changed. Although my new role is certainly an oportunity in itself, I am not working with the technologies I am familiar with any more. Technologies I have worked hard to get to know.
In my case VMware / Exchange. I do not work with these technologies any more and I'd be afraid of knowledge fading.

^^ that obviously only works if your new job is actually working with technologies you want to work with

dave330i

Used to be part of the never accept counter offer. Now I believe in the standard IT answer of it depends. It depends on your skill sets, value of said skill sets, capability of current company & potential future company.

I had a chance to jump ship while back, but decided to accept the counter offer after weighing the pros & cons. Now I'm in position to get at least 1 VCDX and all VCAP in the near future.

lantech

And when you do give notice at your current job, make sure not to burn bridges yet again by saying bad things to your boss and coworkers about him. Like someone said, you could meet again.

Just leave gracefully. While it might make you feel a little better in the end it may not be worth it because if you do meet him again in a future job he might make it worse for you.

TheCudder

dave330i wrote: »

Used to be part of the never accept counter offer. Now I believe in the standard IT answer of it depends. It depends on your skill sets, value of said skill sets, capability of current company & potential future company.

I had a chance to jump ship while back, but decided to accept the counter offer after weighing the pros & cons. Now I'm in position to get at least 1 VCDX and all VCAP in the near future.

Agreed. If you have an uncommon skill-set, hold a position that my be tough to back-fill, you're a critical part of the team and actually want to stay, then I think the counter-offer is something to consider. Now if your just the average IT Joe, decline the counter and move on because you'll be the first to go when things turn sour.

Akaricloud

TheCudder wrote: »

Agreed. If you have an uncommon skill-set, hold a position that my be tough to back-fill, you're a critical part of the team and actually want to stay, then I think the counter-offer is something to consider. Now if your just the average IT Joe, decline the counter and move on because you'll be the first to go when things turn sour.

I agree. If you can be easily replaced then taking a counter-offer means you're more likely to be replaced in the near future. If you're specialized enough that they NEED you then you don't have much to lose by accepting a counter-offer.

ptilsen

Agreed with most of what's here. Just tell the new employer "career growth" or something to that effect. Heck, you can even tell them "the pay is not commensurate with my skillset". I think the more difficult question is always "why do you want to work here", since the truth is usually "you have a job opening that I think I'd be a good fit for" and not some variation of"this is a great organization, etc."

I'm part of the don't-entertain-a-counter-offer group but I'm also part of the there-are-few-absolutes-in-anything. If you like your company, apply for a different job to get more money without even discussing it with your current employer, and they come back at you with a compelling offer and you believe they truly want you to stay and will continue to treat you well after that, then a counter-offer can be considered. I just think that that scenario is rare; usually, if you've gotten an offer elsewhere, it's best to just take it.

When you have to leave, you tell your boss you've accepted a position at another organization. Unless you want a counter-offer, that's all there is to it. If you like your boss and the company that can be a hard conversation to have, but there's not much to it. You tell them you're leaving and what your last day will be -- ideally two weeks from the day you tell them.

FloOz

You can always tell your current and prospective employer that you feel that you are not being challenged enough.