What I have learned in IT

N2ITN2IT Inactive Imported Users Posts: 7,483 ■■■■■■■■■■
Just a couple of bullets I wanted to throw out there that I have picked up over the course of 10 years or so.
  • The type of work means very little, but the people you work with and you boss make all the difference in the world.
  • While pay is a big factor, making decisions solely on that will lead you in a bad place.
  • Nothing is as good as it seems
  • Nothing is as bad as it seems
  • The thought of failing is usually worse than actually failing
  • Not knowing how to do something is okay
  • Studying certifications without actually having real world knowledge leads to declartive knowledge, but very little emparitve knowledge.
  • Setting a goal and meeting it is far greater than trying to pick off low hanging fruit type certifications. One large respected certification > a bunch of low to mid level certifications
  • More is not always more, and sometimes less is more
  • Keeping your education aligned with your experience is the golden rule in IT. (From my perspective)
  • Don't let fear and doubt influence your decisions.
  • When communication stops bad things start happening.
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  • MSP-ITMSP-IT Member Posts: 752 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Sometimes I think it's best to sit back, slow down, and think about these types of things. Great input, N2IT.
  • ShdwmageShdwmage Member Posts: 374
    Work smarter not harder, find ways to standardize things to reduce the possibilities of errors.
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  • NotHackingYouNotHackingYou Member Posts: 1,460 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Good ones!
    When you go the extra mile, there's no traffic.
  • CertinatorCertinator Member Posts: 43 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Great words of wisdom!
  • ZorodzaiZorodzai Member Posts: 357 ■■■■■■■□□□
    N2IT wrote: »
    • Don't let fear and doubt influence your decisions.

    Amen !!
  • Asif DaslAsif Dasl Member Posts: 2,116 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Great list Patrick... I guess some of mine are life lessons.. some I've made up, some I've heard and 1 or 2 you've probably have heard before.
    • Face your fears - there is another level of understanding once you get past the fear you face.
    • Failure is an opportunity to learn and get it right the next time around.
    • Good things don't come to those who wait. Good things come to those who are patient... while working hard for what they want most in life.
    • Most people judge you by how you look, even if you are a genius in flip-flops.
    • You are good enough but your dreams have to be chased to come true.
    • Acknowledge your past, have courage for the present, and above all else plan for your future.
    • Education is the tool to beat poverty.
    • There is no "I" in "team".
    • Self doubt has killed more dreams than failure ever did.
    I especially like the last one... I'd be interested in hearing a few more.

  • UnixGuyUnixGuy Mod Posts: 4,564 Mod
    Great points! It's important to remind ourselves that it's just a job, and there is more to life than a job. No one regrets not working harder on their death bed!
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  • JustFredJustFred Member Posts: 678 ■■■□□□□□□□
    UnixGuy wrote: »
    Great points! It's important to remind ourselves that it's just a job, and there is more to life than a job. No one regrets not working harder on their death bed!

    Except Montgomery Burns
    [h=2]"After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true." Spock[/h]
  • DevilWAHDevilWAH Member Posts: 2,997 ■■■■■■■■□□
    You can discuss things as much as you like, but nothing will happen unless some one can make a decision. So if no one else will then do it your self.

    No one is going to hand you a promotion, or babysit you through your development. No one owes you any thing, and you don't deserve anything. If you want a career don't wait for one to be dropped in your lap. You will have to work for it, so make sure its work you enjoy.
    • If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
    • An arrow can only be shot by pulling it backward. So when life is dragging you back with difficulties. It means that its going to launch you into something great. So just focus and keep aiming.
  • JeanMJeanM Member Posts: 1,117
    DevilWAH wrote: »
    You can discuss things as much as you like, but nothing will happen unless some one can make a decision. So if no one else will then do it your self.

    No one is going to hand you a promotion, or babysit you through your development. No one owes you any thing, and you don't deserve anything. If you want a career don't wait for one to be dropped in your lap. You will have to work for it, so make sure its work you enjoy.

    plus one!
    2015 goals - ccna voice / vmware vcp.
  • the_Grinchthe_Grinch Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■
    This should be stickied! In my five years the biggest thing I've learn is this: speak up! Voice your concerns and if they still tell you to do it so be it. I've been successful in my positions solely because of the fact that I give it to people straight. If it's a band aid fix, call it that. If you don't agree with how a project is going say it. You can do these things is a respectful and proper manner, which could prove to be the difference between a successful project and a failure.

    Last thing I learned is have a plan. Doesn't mean it can't change, but if you have nothing then you are doomed to fail
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  • GoodBishopGoodBishop Member Posts: 359 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Nobody said on their deathbed: "Gee, I wish I spent more time at work."

    Enjoy the time outside of work too with your family and friends.
  • NinjaBoyNinjaBoy Member Posts: 968
    A couple of things that I've learnt:

    1. There is always someone who knows more than you &
    2. The more you learn, the more you find out how much you don't know.
  • timesvan32timesvan32 Member Posts: 79 ■■□□□□□□□□
    1. There is always someone better than you. It's just how life works.
    2. Hard work beats talent when talent fails
  • Rocket ImpossibleRocket Impossible Member Posts: 104
    Good stuff. Rep+
  • Rocket ImpossibleRocket Impossible Member Posts: 104
    JustFred wrote: »
    Except Montgomery Burns

    I think he regrets other people not working harder.
  • ZorodzaiZorodzai Member Posts: 357 ■■■■■■■□□□
    DevilWAH wrote: »
    You can discuss things as much as you like, but nothing will happen unless some one can make a decision. So if no one else will then do it your self.

    No one is going to hand you a promotion, or babysit you through your development. No one owes you any thing, and you don't deserve anything. If you want a career don't wait for one to be dropped in your lap. You will have to work for it, so make sure its work you enjoy.

    Powerful words. Our children need to start knowing that from an early age so they don't enter the real world believing the world "owes" them
  • phoeneousphoeneous Member Posts: 2,333 ■■■■■■■□□□
    Know what you manage, manage what you know.

    /mic drop
  • N2ITN2IT Inactive Imported Users Posts: 7,483 ■■■■■■■■■■
    the_Grinch wrote: »

    Last thing I learned is have a plan. Doesn't mean it can't change, but if you have nothing then you are doomed to fail

    Brian Tracy the famous motivational speaker calls this baseline goal setting.

    The example I heard was if you are a freshman at the state University and you go into biology only to find out you hate it, you should reassess your goals (like you mentioned) and make a decision, which may mean changing degrees.

    I am a firm believer in baseline thinking and goal setting. Just because I wanted to get my MCSE yesterday doesn't mean I want or should still continue to get it tomorrow.

    PS Good reply!
  • Snow.brosSnow.bros Member Posts: 832 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Good Thread N2.

    One thing I have learned even though I am not really a talkative person:

    Be confident.
    When you speak, speak loudly, clearly and make sense in what you say and you will be heard.
  • JockVSJockJockVSJock Member Posts: 1,118
    UnixGuy wrote: »
    Great points! It's important to remind ourselves that it's just a job, and there is more to life than a job. No one regrets not working harder on their death bed!

    Believe it or not, I've heard people who are retired say they wish they would have put more effort into their career or post-high school education because they think it would have helped them have a better life.
    ***Freedom of Speech, Just Watch What You Say*** Example, Beware of CompTIA Certs (Deleted From Google Cached)

    "Its easier to deceive the masses then to convince the masses that they have been deceived."
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  • JockVSJockJockVSJock Member Posts: 1,118
    Believe in yourself, especially when you have insecure people attacking you for trying to change your life/career for the better.

    Also, if people are attacking you for trying to improve you are on the right path. This has happened to me throughout my whole career.

    And, don't be afraid to quit a damn job. Don't get into the poverty mindset that just because your aunt worked at some damn company for 30 years and you can't do any better and you'll never find a job that pays as much. That my friends is poverty mindset and I don't believe it. And don't let those co-workers try to brainwash you into thinking you can't do any better then what you are doing or your never going to improve. Its insane how people behave at work and their groupthink become logic in their eyes.

    AND, just because you watch some blinking lights on some piece of hardware or some GUI with a non-privilege account, or you run some commands that you found on the Internet doesn't mean your the next Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Linus Torvalds. Keep your ego in check and you have so much more to learn.
    ***Freedom of Speech, Just Watch What You Say*** Example, Beware of CompTIA Certs (Deleted From Google Cached)

    "Its easier to deceive the masses then to convince the masses that they have been deceived."
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  • Snow.brosSnow.bros Member Posts: 832 ■■■■□□□□□□
    JockVSJock wrote: »
    Believe in yourself, especially when you have insecure people attacking you for trying to change your life/career for the better.

    Also, if people are attacking you for trying to improve you are on the right path. This has happened to me throughout my whole career.

    And, don't be afraid to quit a damn job. Don't get into the poverty mindset that just because your aunt worked at some damn company for 30 years and you can't do any better and you'll never find a job that pays as much. That my friends is poverty mindset and I don't believe it. And don't let those co-workers try to brainwash you into thinking you can't do any better then what you are doing or your never going to improve. Its insane how people behave at work and their groupthink become logic in their eyes.

    AND, just because you watch some blinking lights on some piece of hardware or some GUI with a non-privilege account, or you run some commands that you found on the Internet doesn't mean your the next Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Linus Torvalds. Keep your ego in check and you have so much more to learn.

    Wow man couldn't have said it better myself, I thought people like that only existed in my world.

    Insecure people are irritating to death especially when they see everything wrong about you. Sometimes I come to a realization that I have an upper hand over them, like when someone when tries to fool you into something and you can see the act from the beginning and they think they have you fooled but you can see everything which makes them look foolish, you might not relate but you do come people like these sometimes.
  • N2ITN2IT Inactive Imported Users Posts: 7,483 ■■■■■■■■■■
    UnixGuy wrote: »
    Great points! It's important to remind ourselves that it's just a job, and there is more to life than a job. No one regrets not working harder on their death bed!

    I agree, it's nice to have a big drawn out retirement ceremony it really is, but the people you impact and the relationships you harvest and develop are far more important. This includes your family, friends, other relationships.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Senior Member Posts: 0 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Agreed 100%!! +1 rep! During my time working (which is limited). It really doesn't matter if you have all the knowledge in the world or all the certifications (which would be nice don't get me wrongicon_lol.gif), if you can't display a way to convey the information to people, it doesn't matter in the end (same with relationships with people.)
    Believe in yourself, especially when you have insecure people attacking you for trying to change your life/career for the better.

    Also, if people are attacking you for trying to improve you are on the right path. This has happened to me throughout my whole career.

    And, don't be afraid to quit a damn job. Don't get into the poverty mindset that just because your aunt worked at some damn company for 30 years and you can't do any better and you'll never find a job that pays as much. That my friends is poverty mindset and I don't believe it. And don't let those co-workers try to brainwash you into thinking you can't do any better then what you are doing or your never going to improve. Its insane how people behave at work and their groupthink become logic in their eyes.

    AND, just because you watch some blinking lights on some piece of hardware or some GUI with a non-privilege account, or you run some commands that you found on the Internet doesn't mean your the next Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Linus Torvalds. Keep your ego in check and you have so much more to learn.
    Nice quote! I had some of this happen to me myself (I let my ego get in the way)
  • DevilWAHDevilWAH Member Posts: 2,997 ■■■■■■■■□□
    JockVSJock wrote: »
    AND, just because you watch some blinking lights on some piece of hardware or some GUI with a non-privilege account, or you run some commands that you found on the Internet doesn't mean your the next Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg or Linus Torvalds. Keep your ego in check and you have so much more to learn.

    People like Gates and Zuckerberg, knew two things, First that they did not know all of it, and second they had faith in them selves that they could deliver Gate for example made agreements with IBM before he had the solution complete. Being the next bill gates is not about how technical you are, but delivering on your promises. So feel free to think you can be the next bill gates, but just remember that to be the next bill gate you have to get other people to do that. So be prepared to prove you self over an over before you make it.
    • If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
    • An arrow can only be shot by pulling it backward. So when life is dragging you back with difficulties. It means that its going to launch you into something great. So just focus and keep aiming.
  • JockVSJockJockVSJock Member Posts: 1,118
    I'm seriously wanting to write a JockVSJock Career Guide to IT and get it posted as a sticky here.

    Its a work in progress, however if I can mentor/coach/train someone coming up to avoid all of the crap/pitfalls that I've experience, then it is mission accomplished in my mind.
    ***Freedom of Speech, Just Watch What You Say*** Example, Beware of CompTIA Certs (Deleted From Google Cached)

    "Its easier to deceive the masses then to convince the masses that they have been deceived."
    -unknown
  • UnixGuyUnixGuy Mod Posts: 4,564 Mod
    JockVSJock wrote: »
    Believe it or not, I've heard people who are retired say they wish they would have put more effort into their career or post-high school education because they think it would have helped them have a better life.


    I feel sorry for them. I know each to their own, but they do enslave themselves...there is more to life than a job.
    Certs: GSTRT, GPEN, GCFA, CISM, CRISC, RHCE

    Check out my YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/DRJic8vCodE 


  • DevilWAHDevilWAH Member Posts: 2,997 ■■■■■■■■□□
    UnixGuy wrote: »
    I feel sorry for them. I know each to their own, but they do enslave themselves...there is more to life than a job.

    Yes there is more to life than your job, but satisfaction in a job is important in life. An artist for example strive to produce that perfect work of art, or a design looks to design the worlds most ionic buildings. Some people chose a job that they want to be recognised for doing. So while for many people there is more to life than their job. For some people there job is there life. Not because they are sad or enslaved. But because the job they have chosen is one they are passionate about.

    I personal put a lot in to work because I am proud of where I work, and when i do retire I want to look back on a career I have enjoyed and done well at.
    • If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
    • An arrow can only be shot by pulling it backward. So when life is dragging you back with difficulties. It means that its going to launch you into something great. So just focus and keep aiming.
  • --chris----chris-- Member Posts: 1,518 ■■■■■□□□□□
    Snow.bros wrote: »
    Wow man couldn't have said it better myself, I thought people like that only existed in my world.

    Insecure people are irritating to death especially when they see everything wrong about you. Sometimes I come to a realization that I have an upper hand over them, like when someone when tries to fool you into something and you can see the act from the beginning and they think they have you fooled but you can see everything which makes them look foolish, you might not relate but you do come people like these sometimes.

    I was chastised by coworkers (in a playful manner, but with serious undertones) weekly at my first IT job for reading Odom's ICND1 book every day on lunch. No one studied anything, went to school or asked questions when things broke.

    I find this is pretty common in entry level jobs because you have the coworkers who resent you for wanting to move into more advanced roles. They will single you out, they will gang up on you and they will fail to help you when you need it. Just study up, cert up and move on!
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