Sick of WGU. Withdraw?

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  • gespensterngespenstern Posts: 1,243Member ■■■■■■■□□□
    Guys, just so you know. You are necroposting here and this topic no longer actual. The TS has finished his WGU MSISA and it actually didn't play well for him as AFAIR he was denied financing of another Master's degree with SANS which is very expensive and respected and could be a big win for him to get it for free if he didn't have an MS already.
  • powerfoolpowerfool Senior Member Posts: 1,623Member ■■■■■■■■□□
    Guys, just so you know. You are necroposting here and this topic no longer actual. The TS has finished his WGU MSISA and it actually didn't play well for him as AFAIR he was denied financing of another Master's degree with SANS which is very expensive and respected and could be a big win for him to get it for free if he didn't have an MS already.

    Can you even get traditional financial aid for SANS? I don't think they are actually accredited, are they? I know they are respected and have put together good material (a variety of courses/certifications), but I thought financing was limited to more private options?
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  • colemiccolemic Posts: 1,568Member ■■■■■■■□□□
    I believe it is accredited , as GI Bill covers it now.
    Working on: CCSP, definitely, maybe. On the twitters: @mcole1008
  • powerfoolpowerfool Senior Member Posts: 1,623Member ■■■■■■■■□□
    colemic wrote: »
    I believe it is accredited , as GI Bill covers it now.

    Must be new. That is cool.
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  • JoJoCal19JoJoCal19 California Kid Posts: 2,796Mod Mod
    No you cannot receive federal student loans for the SANS Master's degree. They do not qualify for Title IV funding. You can use GI Bill though.
    Have: CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, eJPT, GCIA, GSEC, CCSP, CCSK, AWS CSAA, AWS CCP, CEHv8, CHFIv8, ITIL-F, MS Cyber Security - USF, BSBA - UF, MSISA - WGU
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  • JoJoCal19JoJoCal19 California Kid Posts: 2,796Mod Mod
    Guys, just so you know. You are necroposting here and this topic no longer actual. The TS has finished his WGU MSISA and it actually didn't play well for him as AFAIR he was denied financing of another Master's degree with SANS which is very expensive and respected and could be a big win for him to get it for free if he didn't have an MS already.

    We are responding (at least I was) to aspiringsoul who posted in this thread as he is in the same predicament as the OP. So it was a continuation of the same topic.
    Have: CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, eJPT, GCIA, GSEC, CCSP, CCSK, AWS CSAA, AWS CCP, CEHv8, CHFIv8, ITIL-F, MS Cyber Security - USF, BSBA - UF, MSISA - WGU
    Currently Working On: Python, OSCP Prep
    Next Up:​ OSCP
    Studying:​ Code Academy (Python), Bash Scripting, Virtual Hacking Lab Coursework
  • colemiccolemic Posts: 1,568Member ■■■■■■■□□□
    JoJoCal19 wrote: »
    No you cannot receive federal student loans for the SANS Master's degree. They do not qualify for Title IV funding. You can use GI Bill though.

    You could use private loans though. I would imagine most people have to, with that sticker price.
    Working on: CCSP, definitely, maybe. On the twitters: @mcole1008
  • JoJoCal19JoJoCal19 California Kid Posts: 2,796Mod Mod
    colemic wrote: »
    You could use private loans though. I would imagine most people have to, with that sticker price.

    Yes you could, but that's an awful idea. I have enough private student loans. Not a penny more. If they had better payment arrangements and the price wasn't so high, I'd just self pay.
    Have: CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, eJPT, GCIA, GSEC, CCSP, CCSK, AWS CSAA, AWS CCP, CEHv8, CHFIv8, ITIL-F, MS Cyber Security - USF, BSBA - UF, MSISA - WGU
    Currently Working On: Python, OSCP Prep
    Next Up:​ OSCP
    Studying:​ Code Academy (Python), Bash Scripting, Virtual Hacking Lab Coursework
  • cyberguyprcyberguypr Senior Member Posts: 6,810Mod Mod
    "Better payment arrangements" and "SANS" are mutually exclusive icon_smile.gif
  • skibo187skibo187 Posts: 1Registered Users ■□□□□□□□□□
    I work for Raytheon, and they hired an IT security guy graduate from WGU and he doesn't know Jack from SH*T, and to make things worse I am in my second semester @ WGU and to be honest I havn't learned anything ! I have passed all my classes but I am cutting it short and stop spending my money and drop WGU, and start with UTSA There Cyber security course just went online, so for those that stay at WGU good luck wasting your time on a fly by night school!!!!
  • ira.aira.a Posts: 29Member ■□□□□□□□□□
    I'm just frustrated because I'm watch kids at other colleges who are working with APIs, doing Data Structures, learning algorithms, and I'm having a **** time with their basic networking class and I'm a BS SD student? I understand competency, but this class doesn't help me get a programming job. Maybe if I want to go into DevOps, but they don't teach Puppet or anything useful for that.
  • BlucodexBlucodex OSCP, GCIA, GCIH, GMON, CISSP, CEH, CHFI, CCNA CyberOps, Security+ Posts: 430Member ■■■■□□□□□□
    What's a mentor? After the first month I switchesd to a 5 minute call every other week. The conversation goes like this:

    Mentor: How are you?
    Me: Great.
    Mentor: Any questions?
    Me: You know I don't have any.

    Graduate level students will LEARN what they choose to learn. There is no hand holding here. Your boss is going to give you a task and expect you to complete it without asking a question every step of the way.
  • NetworkNewbNetworkNewb Posts: 3,250Member ■■■■■■■■■□
    Blucodex wrote: »
    There is no hand holding here. Your boss is going to give you a task and expect you to complete it without asking a question every step of the way.

    The comments above you do say they are completing the tasks they are given, just that the tasks are pointless in actually learning valuable material.

    Not all the time, but a lot of times you get what you pay for.
  • McxRisleyMcxRisley OSCP, CASP, CySA+, CPT+, Sec+, CEH, Splunk Admin Posts: 478Member ■■■■■□□□□□
    The complaints here pretty much solidify my feelings on people attending WGU. Also, I'm still trying to figure out where this whole " I need a masters to work in management" mentality came from. I know some places have it listed as a requirement, but that doesnt mean you absolutely have to have it. From my experience the one thing that is going to benefit you the most in pursuing a management role is management experience. I realize this is a catch 22 but most requirements in IT are.
    I'm not allowed to say what my previous occupation was, but let's just say it rhymes with architect.
  • BlucodexBlucodex OSCP, GCIA, GCIH, GMON, CISSP, CEH, CHFI, CCNA CyberOps, Security+ Posts: 430Member ■■■■□□□□□□
    The comments above you do say they are completing the tasks they are given, just that the tasks are pointless in actually learning valuable material.

    Not all the time, but a lot of times you get what you pay for.

    I agree. OP said he just did it to check a box. ASU is regarded as a top Cyber program--the students think it sucks.

    My point is this is the current state of academia. If you're expecting a college to teach you in-depth and up to date technical concepts you are searching in the wrong place. You need to dig in yourself. If you want to check a box or get a base level of knowledge college is perfect.
  • kiki162kiki162 Posts: 635Member
    I had a similar problem when I first started my Masters. The school was similar to WGU. My first class was super easy, boring, and annoying all at the same time. I changed schools, and now I'm 60% completed. Just finished a reverse engineering course that damn near killed me, but I got through it. With the amount of certs, and probably experience you have, you are better off at another school. Feel free to PM me with questions.
  • boxerboy1168boxerboy1168 Posts: 394Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    uhhhhhhh what?

    I love WGU.

    Then again I am motivated to get a degree and acquire the skills that the certifications represent. I don't care about the mentor they answer questions when I have them the rest I handle on my own.

    Love it just praying I can achieve the degree.
    Currently enrolling into WGU's IT - Security Program. Working on LPIC (1,2,3) and CCNA (and S) as long term goals and preparing for the Security+ and A+ as short term goals.
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