Do you get paid overtime in your job?
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Are IT jobs common in having unpaid overtime or are there jobs/careers in the IT field where you can expect paid overtime? ( anything over 40 hours)?
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Dakinggamer87 Member Posts: 4,016 ■■■■■■■■□□I get paid OT at my job it helps pay the bills.*Associate's of Applied Sciences degree in Information Technology-Network Systems Administration
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Bchen2 Banned Posts: 67 ■■□□□□□□□□Dakinggamer87 wrote: »I get paid OT at my job it helps pay the bills.
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E Double U Member Posts: 2,233 ■■■■■■■■■■I got paid OT in every hourly position that I've held. I currently get time-and-a-half in my bank security role. When I worked holidays in my NOC role I got double time-and-a half. Those were the days.
I was salary in SOC and the migrations teams. I had a handful of long migration days and didn't get paid an additional cent for those extra hours, but I've also had plenty of days that I took off early. I found balance.Alphabet soup from (ISC)2, ISACA, GIAC, EC-Council, Microsoft, ITIL, Cisco, Scrum, CompTIA, AWS -
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RHEL Member Posts: 195 ■■■□□□□□□□You can expect many lower-end/entry IT jobs to have hourly wages -- help desk, operations, technicians, etc... I have occasionally seen some mid-level technician type jobs paying overtime.
However, most mid-senior level IT positions will be salaried and no overtime. Many of them will have 24x7 and on-call expectations with no overtime. The exception is that most contract positions will usually be hourly.
I have worked the past 6 years as a system engineer over three companies in a 24x7 environment. I have always participated in on-call rotations and have never received overtime compensation. -
Dryst999 Member Posts: 81 ■■□□□□□□□□In my previous system/network admin positions I've always been salary OT exempt with an unwritten comp time rule.
My current job as a systems engineer is hourly with paid OT. I make too much money to make time and a half for OT pay, I only get paid my standard hourly rate. I can't tell you how much easier it makes those long nights to know you are actually getting paid for your work, I don't think I could go back to being a salaried employee after this job. -
Thacker Member Posts: 170In my previous system/network admin positions I've always been salary OT exempt with an unwritten comp time rule.
My current job as a systems engineer is hourly with paid OT. I make too much money to make time and a half for OT pay, I only get paid my standard hourly rate. I can't tell you how much easier it makes those long nights to know you are actually getting paid for your work, I don't think I could go back to being a salaried employee after this job.
This is illegal. No one "makes too much money" for overtime. If you work more than 40 hours a week and your position is non exempt... which most tech positions that don't involve management actually are then you are being screwed by your employer. Any time over 40 is FEDERALLY MANDATED to be at 1.5x your rate. A labor attorney would love to speak with you. -
kohr-ah Member Posts: 1,277This is illegal. No one "makes too much money" for overtime. If you work more than 40 hours a week and your position is non exempt... which most tech positions that don't involve management actually are then you are being screwed by your employer. Any time over 40 is FEDERALLY MANDATED to be at 1.5x your rate. A labor attorney would love to speak with you.
Come to Illinois. Not illegal at all.
https://www.illinois.gov/idol/Laws-Rules/FLS/Pages/Chart.aspx
Oh and I dont get OT but I get flex time here. Previous places I got OT. -
Thacker Member Posts: 170Come to Illinois. Not illegal at all.
https://www.illinois.gov/idol/Laws-Rules/FLS/Pages/Chart.aspx
Oh and I dont get OT but I get flex time here. Previous places I got OT.
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Mooseboost Member Posts: 778 ■■■■□□□□□□We tend to get OT in outages, otherwise our time is watched pretty closely.
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Dryst999 Member Posts: 81 ■■□□□□□□□□This is illegal. No one "makes too much money" for overtime. If you work more than 40 hours a week and your position is non exempt... which most tech positions that don't involve management actually are then you are being screwed by your employer. Any time over 40 is FEDERALLY MANDATED to be at 1.5x your rate. A labor attorney would love to speak with you.
Not illegal in CA, I make over $41/hr and my primary job function consists of consulting and designing infrastructure for clients. Even without time and a half i'm still ecstatic to get paid anything for overtime work, i'm used to the standard IT slave labor mentality like most other IT professionals
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Thacker Member Posts: 170Not illegal in CA, I make over $41/hr and my primary job consists of consulting and designing infrastructure. Even without time and a half i'm still ecstatic to get paid anything for overtime work, i'm used to the standard IT slave labor mentality like most other IT professionals
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Once again, state laws cannot override the FLSA. Your position is considered exempt, and you getting anything is a bonus. However, if your position was non exempt and you only got straight time instead of 1.5x your hourly rate, this would be illegal. -
beads Member Posts: 1,533 ■■■■■■■■■□Here is your best source of advice from the Federal level where it all begins. This is a very easy read and outlines worker's compensation law very well. Also, keep in mind that if you were to challenge your employer through the Department of Labor you'd all but certainly win under the current administration rules.
Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) Coverage (Exempt vs. Non-Exempt -- The Online Wages, Hours and Overtime Pay Resource
I have an extensive HR, HIPAA and compliance background. LOL.
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BlackBeret Member Posts: 683 ■■■■■□□□□□This is illegal. No one "makes too much money" for overtime. If you work more than 40 hours a week and your position is non exempt... which most tech positions that don't involve management actually are then you are being screwed by your employer. Any time over 40 is FEDERALLY MANDATED to be at 1.5x your rate. A labor attorney would love to speak with you.
"Salary level test. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Employees who are paid less than $23,600 per year ($455 per week) are nonexempt. (Employees who earn more than $100,000 per year are almost certainly exempt.)" [/FONT] -
networker050184 Mod Posts: 11,962 ModI get salary and OT pay if I have to do anything outside of normal working hours. In the past it's always just been comp time for any extra hours worked.An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made.
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Thacker Member Posts: 170BlackBeret wrote: »"Salary level test. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Employees who are paid less than $23,600 per year ($455 per week) are nonexempt. (Employees who earn more than $100,000 per year are almost certainly exempt.)" [/FONT]
If you make more than 100,000 / yr, but your primary duties involve technician style work of operating off a ticketing system, fixing network or IT related issues and does not involve the direct supervision of other workers then you are still non exempt. Salary is only one of MANY guidelines for determining if someone is eligible for overtime. MOST IT positions that are not in development, programming or software design are meant to be overtime eligible. Misinformation and companies exploiting people over the last 20 years have really weighed things in the corporations favor. You are literally arguing with me that you don't deserve overtime... it's like no one wants to get paid their fair worth for the work they are doing. No other first world country has this problem except the good ole USA. -
InfoTech92 Member Posts: 75 ■■□□□□□□□□We don't get OT, but comp days if we work a lot. For example, lets say you're on call and you work 6 hours 1 weekend. They'll give us a comp day if we want it since we had to work so much on call.
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greg9891 Member Posts: 1,189 ■■■■■■■□□□I would expect that most places pay overtime. and the ones that don't usually just give u the day off to make up for the extra hours worked. Hope that helps!!!!!:
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TLeTourneau Member Posts: 616 ■■■■■■■■□□I'm exempt so no OT, although we do comp time. I am in an engineering/systems administration position.Thanks, Tom
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ArabianKnight Member Posts: 278 ■■■□□□□□□□Obama is raising the OT qualification to around 50k, what does that mean for us IT workers?
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beads Member Posts: 1,533 ■■■■■■■■■□The Department of Labor has already done all the homework for you and compartmentalized you by job description and title to determine if you are indeed exempt or not. If you believe you are in a non-exempt position and deserve overtime you have the right to seek out an attorney of your choice or file directly with local and Federal labor boards.
In truth your HR department has already thought about the cost in significant fines and refined your job description accordingly. Either that or you have some of the most inept HR people on the planet and deserve to be fined out of existence. Seen that miracle, first hand as well.
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TLeTourneau Member Posts: 616 ■■■■■■■■□□ArabianKnight wrote: »Obama is raising the OT qualification to around 50k, what does that mean for us IT workers?
It would have no impact on me... also there are still the other exemptions that have do with job functions rather than pay.Thanks, Tom
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eansdad Member Posts: 775 ■■■■□□□□□□Thacker - The easiest way to put it is unless your a programmer or job duties require you to manage someone under you you are legally required to receive OT. Most think that being salary by your pay rate is the same as salary as the law states. Just because you get a "salary" vs hourly rate doesn't give your employer the ability to deny you OT pay.
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the_Grinch Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■I work for the State and my job title is not allowed overtime. It's rare that I have to work past my normal hours, but on occasion it happens.WIP:
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SoCalGuy858 Member Posts: 150 ■■■□□□□□□□When I started with my current company as a sysadmin / help desk guy, we were hourly. The overtime was sweet! (One on-site disaster resulted in me making more in two days than I did in a regular week!) Eventually, all of us were transitioned to salary, which is where I'm still at as a security analyst.LinkedIn - Just mention you're from TE!
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SteveLord Member Posts: 1,717the_Grinch wrote: »I work for the State and my job title is not allowed overtime. It's rare that I have to work past my normal hours, but on occasion it happens.
State here too. All of IT can get overtime, but only the low to mid technical classifications get time in a half from it.WGU B.S.IT - 9/1/2015 >>> ??? -
Kinet1c Member Posts: 604 ■■■■□□□□□□I don't get overtime but will get any overtime back to me in time off.2018 Goals - Learn all the Hashicorp products
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Russell77 Member Posts: 161NOC type work for me, Overtime at time and a half, Double time after certain amount of hours. Shift differential. They ask for overtime almost every day.