CISSP irregularities exam

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  • tedjamestedjames Member Posts: 1,182 ■■■■■■■■□□
    My SSCP application was audited. It was a bit of an inconvenience having to resubmit paperwork. I submitted identical paperwork and was approved right away. I don't understand why ISC2 does some of the things they do.
  • djasonslickdjasonslick Member Posts: 42 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Hmmm. How frustrating. If it was cheating good for ISC2 if not what the heck!

    I can say during my last attempt, I had a irritating experience with Pearson Vue proctor.
    I raised my hand after 100 questions to take a break,grab a granola bar and use the bathroom. She walked over and I told her I wanted to take a break. She informed me I could not take a break with this exam. I said ummm yes I have to. It's six hours long and I have to use the bathroom. She said no you can't. AFter a minute of hemming and hawing she said "ok fine", so she let me scan out. Then when I started to get in my locker to get my drink and snack she said STOP you can't get in your locker. The other gal at the desk corrected her and said yes he can.
    I'm kind of a slow tesk taker (atleast on this exam) and didn't feel like I had extra time to debate the rules with her.
    I guess bottom line I do hope there is some sort of "Audit" that takes place both with Pearson Vue and ISC2 ensuring that rules/ethics/standards are properly enforced and everything is conducted in a fair manner.
  • ITSpectreITSpectre Member Posts: 1,040 ■■■■□□□□□□
    super_girl wrote: »
    my job is security consultant and VA tester, i work in this job about 6 years and passed training security+, CEH, cloud and etc.
    i used only official guide 4th edition and especially read in topic what'new in 4th editon. Spend time about 3 month before exams.
    CISSP question often ask in management term not deep down technical e.g what is the best thing?, what is the first thing you should do?
    The review question is very cool because it summary the important thing you need to know in each topic but it is old questions same in 3rd edition book so it no have the new content questions

    But what did you do when you took the test?????
    What did you do on break???
    did you have a prohibited device with you???
    did you take the paper with you after the exam?
    did you talk or look around during the test???

    We need a chain of events starting from when you first got to the testing center, to when you left.... like a play by play recollection of the events that happened the day of the test....
    In the darkest hour, there is always a way out - Eve ME3 :cool:
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  • beadsbeads Member Posts: 1,533 ■■■■■■■■■□
    @Super_girl

    Next time be sure to schedule the exam at a different site or different proctor. Because of the locale your taking your exam, South Asia, in general is likely under more scrutiny than some other places might. Why? Because of the high amount of cheating in the past. So anything that can be considered questionable whether it is or not is likely to be flagged.

    The proctor was a jerk, felt the need to disqualify someone or something coincidental happened and the ISC(2) was choosing the safe option. Same thing(s) happen here in the US.

    Don't feel singled out if you really did not ****!

    - b/eads
  • RemedympRemedymp Member Posts: 834 ■■■■□□□□□□
    ITSpectre wrote: »
    But what did you do when you took the test?????
    What did you do on break???
    did you have a prohibited device with you???
    did you take the paper with you after the exam?
    did you talk or look around during the test???

    We need a chain of events starting from when you first got to the testing center, to when you left.... like a play by play recollection of the events that happened the day of the test....


    Most, if not all test centers make you empty your pockets. My test center force me to roll up my sleeves and pop my collar as well check for my arms for tattoos. I even had to roll up my pants legs.

    There is also a chaperon to walk to the bathroom.

    Cheating is just not an option from experience.
  • webpriestesswebpriestess Member Posts: 82 ■■□□□□□□□□
    This scares me to death. I'm going over and over every single thing I did at the test center. We were not supervised when allowed to the lobby for water or food. But there were cameras. No escorts for the bathroom...which was all the way on the other side of the building on a different floor. After working so hard, something like this would crush me.

    ::Claudia
  • onajjaronajjar Registered Users Posts: 1 ■□□□□□□□□□
    HI All,
    today I received a similar email from ISC2 , saying the following :
    "We are writing to inform you of an adverse action being taken as the result of analysis conducted on the (ISC)2 exam you took on 03 July 2016.
    As part of our ongoing forensic analysis of examination data, we carefully reviewed your examination responses. This review revealed a number of irregularities between your examination responses and those of other examinees. Based on forensic analysis, and further investigation, we have concluded that your exam score cannot be certified as representing a valid measure of a candidate’s competence in the domains assessed by (ISC)2. (ISC)2 has therefore invalidated your CISSP certification examination results. "

    I have no idea the reason behind this as ISC2 refused to give me any details icon_sad.gif(
  • EZstreetEZstreet Member Posts: 18 ■■□□□□□□□□
    WOW ! Sorry to hear this. Do you have a way to appeal? Can you give us some background on your test environment? Other examiees taking at the same time as you? Test administrator ? Any proctors? Can you retake for free or will they charge you? Assuming you will sit again.

    Again too bad.

    EZ
  • JDMurrayJDMurray Admin Posts: 13,099 Admin
    I'm guessing here, but if there is a **** of actual CISSP exam items there will be a pattern formed by which items have been dumped and any incorrect answer options present on the ****. In other words, the **** has a known subset of exam items, some of those items are marked with the incorrect answers, and groups of exam candidates are therefore answering those exam items with the same wrong answers, hence they are all using the same ****. There is also a possibility that there are no wrong answers on the **** and groups of candidates are always marking the same exam items correctly. This would be some typical statistical correlation clusters that forensic exam analysis would be looking for which could indicate the existence of an unknown (zero-day) ****.
  • cyberguyprcyberguypr Mod Posts: 6,928 Mod
    OK, so onajjar, help us out. How long did your test take? What materials did you use to prepare? Give us something.
  • ankit2455ankit2455 Member Posts: 17 ■■■□□□□□□□
    I have scheduled my exam for next month and after reading this thread, i am scared. What practice to follow so that i am also not a victim?
  • devilbonesdevilbones Member Posts: 318 ■■■■□□□□□□
    ankit2455 wrote: »
    I have scheduled my exam for next month and after reading this thread, i am scared. What practice to follow so that i am also not a victim?
    As long as you dont use a **** you should be fine. I think the forensic analysis is based off of planted questions.
  • danny069danny069 Member Posts: 1,025 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I agree with JDMurray there must be some kind of **** out there that either has the right or wrong answers and those people who use them are answering them either incorrectly or correctly. I like the term zero day **** lol. It's not a legitimate way to gauge your knowledge, study hard and pass on your own merit and also be aware of what material is considered cheating.
    I am a Jack of all trades, Master of None
  • ErtazErtaz Member Posts: 934 ■■■■■□□□□□
    ankit2455 wrote: »
    I have scheduled my exam for next month and after reading this thread, i am scared. What practice to follow so that i am also not a victim?


    I think that you should take your time during the exam. I took a little over 2 hours for mine. If you speed through it in an hour or less, I would think that would be a red flag whether you were cheating or not. No practice test I ever took looked remotely like the actual test.
  • JDMurrayJDMurray Admin Posts: 13,099 Admin
    I would ask everyone to beware of--if not shun--certification exam "practice" materials they find on the Internet from questionable sources, such as file sharing networks. These are often real **** or fake ****, most are old and the material they contain is no longer in the exam pools, and many of the answers are incorrect as well. All of these published **** are known to the major certification vendors and are used to detect cheaters.

    If you are taking a certification exam and find yourself saying, "Hey, these are the same questions as in that file I downloaded from BitTorrent!", you are probably risking your passing exam results being invalidated.
  • gespensterngespenstern Member Posts: 1,243 ■■■■■■■■□□
    ankit2455 wrote: »
    I have scheduled my exam for next month and after reading this thread, i am scared. What practice to follow so that i am also not a victim?

    Don't make someone else (like ISC2) a victim of a cheating and you'll be fine. These folks with "irregularities" aren't victims, it's ISC2 who is a victim here, and the folks are cheating offenders playing a victim card.
  • ErtazErtaz Member Posts: 934 ■■■■■□□□□□
    Don't make someone else (like ISC2) a victim of a cheating and you'll be fine. These folks with "irregularities" aren't victims, it's ISC2 who is a victim here, and the folks are cheating offenders playing a victim card.

    Yes, in all likelihood the overwhelming majority of folks that are being flagged are indeed cheating. But I don't think you can say with %100 certainty that *all* of them are any more than you can say ISC2 is catching *all* the cheaters. Generally, I agree though: No cheating, No problems.
  • beadsbeads Member Posts: 1,533 ■■■■■■■■■□
    Don't make someone else (like ISC2) a victim of a cheating and you'll be fine. These folks with "irregularities" aren't victims, it's ISC2 who is a victim here, and the folks are cheating offenders playing a victim card.

    I agree but with the clarification that it's the ISC(2) membership at large that is the real victim(s), here.

    - b/eads
  • EZstreetEZstreet Member Posts: 18 ■■□□□□□□□□
    onajjar wrote: »
    HI All,
    today I received a similar email from ISC2 , saying the following :
    "We are writing to inform you of an adverse action being taken as the result of analysis conducted on the (ISC)2 exam you took on 03 July 2016.
    As part of our ongoing forensic analysis of examination data, we carefully reviewed your examination responses. This review revealed a number of irregularities between your examination responses and those of other examinees. Based on forensic analysis, and further investigation, we have concluded that your exam score cannot be certified as representing a valid measure of a candidate’s competence in the domains assessed by (ISC)2. (ISC)2 has therefore invalidated your CISSP certification examination results. "

    I have no idea the reason behind this as ISC2 refused to give me any details icon_sad.gif(


    Think we might have been trolled here?

    EZ
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