A+ needed?

ITSpectreITSpectre Posts: 1,040Member
Since I have my Sec+ do I really need to get my A+.... When I interviewed for a job recently they said I needed to
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  • PlantwizPlantwiz Posts: 5,057Mod Mod
    If your potential employer wants the candidate to have an A+, don't you think as the candidate you'd want to meet the maximum criteria for the position?

    Up to you.

    Does anyone NEED any certification? No. Does holding certain certifications help folks land a job? Yep, sometimes.
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    'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
  • ITSpectreITSpectre Posts: 1,040Member
    I see what your saying.... But doesn't the Sec+ trump the A+? I mean I understand the A+ has the fundamental knowledge but I would think an employer would say "hey you got the Sec+ you are ok for certs, you dont need to worry about the A+" but it does depend on the job.
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  • huschusc Posts: 9Member ■□□□□□□□□□
    i think it depends on the job you apply.
  • ThePawofRizzoThePawofRizzo SSCP, A+, N+, Sec+, CySA+, Cloud+, CWTS Posts: 389Member ■■■■□□□□□□
    While Sec+ would seem to "trump" A+ and N+ to some degree, especially given the way CompTIA presents the CEU renewal with Sec+ meeting CEUs for the "lower level" certs. However, while there is some topic overlap, the majority of the content for these certifications is different. I work with a "Security Architech" who has Sec+, but who is severely lacking skills in the basic PC, so simply having Sec+ is not an indicator that the Sec+ certificate holder has strong desktop skills. Considering IT Security often requires some computer forensics, I can see an employer seeing a bonus in a prospective employee with some proven knowledge in at least basic desktop skills
  • PlantwizPlantwiz Posts: 5,057Mod Mod
    A+ is geared toward hardware and desktop troubleshooting, so no, it neither trumps nor is replaced by any other certification. A+ is geared toward a bench tech, which as it goes today, is not as much in demand as it once was. Still a needed role, but not in the same league as Sec+.

    A+ works hand-in-hand with NET+ because from a standard desktop, one tends to connect into a networked environment and therefore has a need to understand basic networking.

    Not everyone needs the A+ certification, it 'depends' on the job/role the candidate needs to fulfill. Additionally, if an employer has a need to have 'x' amount of staff holding specific certifications, then they 'may' need the candidate (You) to have an A+.
    Plantwiz
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    ***I'll add you can Capitalize the word 'I' to show a little respect for yourself too.

    'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
  • ITSpectreITSpectre Posts: 1,040Member
    Thanks for the Clarification Plantwiz. Also Question I can't send messages to ppl... idk why
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  • PlantwizPlantwiz Posts: 5,057Mod Mod
    I'll notify an Admin, but check your settings because you can send and receive email from members.

    EDIT:

    Check under your 'general settings' feature. Scroll down a bit and you can enable PM or disable it, confirm the radio button is set to 'receive' PMs.

    I've left a message with Admin to look into as well.
    Plantwiz
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    "Grammar and spelling aren't everything, but this is a forum, not a chat room. You have plenty of time to spell out the word "you", and look just a little bit smarter." by Phaideaux

    ***I'll add you can Capitalize the word 'I' to show a little respect for yourself too.

    'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
  • AndersonSmithAndersonSmith Posts: 471Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    They're really two completely separate certifications even though COMPTIA considers the Security+ a "higher level certification". The A+ concentrates more on the job of a PC technician and troubleshooting while the Security+ concentrates obviously on physical, network, and computer security. Depending on what job you're applying for it would make sense for the employer to want an A+ as opposed to a Security+. If you're applying for instance for a job as a PC tech or help desk analyst it would make more sense to want to see the A+ cert over the Security+.
    All the best,
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  • infield13infield13 Posts: 17Member ■□□□□□□□□□
    Agree to everything stated above. To me I could see an employer saying that you would have to obtain A+ within six months of hire. If they think you could do the job then I don't see why they wouldn't say "hey this guy has Sec+, If he can learn that then he should easily pass A+"
  • bluejellorabbitbluejellorabbit Posts: 43Member ■■□□□□□□□□
    I wouldn't get it unless 1) a job you really want requires it or 2) someone else (not a family member or someone you care about) is paying for it.

    I really just don't like how much CompTIA charges for these entry level certs. $400 and two tests is obscene. It should be one test and no more than $99 IMHO. Of course, this is just my opinion :)
  • Skyliinez92Skyliinez92 Level 99 Wizard Posts: 822Mod Mod
    The Sec+ does not replace the A+ in any way. Yes, it is a more beneficial cert to have if you are pursuing the security path, but the A+ covers a wide range of computing technologies and troubleshooting steps whereas the Sec+ just focuses on security. The job might want you to have knowledge on printers, networking, hardware basics of a PC, and show that you can respond to incidents which the A+ covers.

    If a job requires that you have a cert, you will need it if you want the job. They may even offer you the job on a temporary basis while you study for the exam. Either way, having more certs on your profile is beneficial and there's no harm in getting it.
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  • bluejellorabbitbluejellorabbit Posts: 43Member ■■□□□□□□□□
    Either way, having more certs on your profile is beneficial and there's no harm in getting it.

    I sort of agree, except for the financial aspect. As I mentioned above, my problem with this cert has always been the cost. If $400 is chump change to you, then by all means go for it. But if it's not, then you'll want to consider if that $400 can be put toward a different cert that may line up better with where you want to go.
  • Skyliinez92Skyliinez92 Level 99 Wizard Posts: 822Mod Mod
    !@=bluejellorabbit

    But think of the amount you would earn once you have the cert. It's a small investment into a long term financial stability. However I do agree that CompTIA charges A LOT for their certs compared to Microsoft. Maybe you could get your current/new employer to fund your exam or a small term loan? I've also seen people sell their exam vouchers on this forum for a cheaper price, although I've never really bought one myself so can't guarantee it.
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  • lodis86lodis86 Posts: 26Member ■□□□□□□□□□
    If an employer wants you to get it, sure. If you need to fulfill school requirements, sure. If you want to get it to stand out to employers, don't bother. This certification isn't really relevant these days.
  • csteffen28csteffen28 Posts: 12Member ■□□□□□□□□□
    Just a heads up with the pricing thing. Anyone with a .edu address can buy the vouchers through the academic side of COMPTIA and get huge discounts. I know not everyone has one, but I paid 190$ for both A+ tests and just paid 141$ for the Net+.
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