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NavyIT wrote: » The best way to negotiate a higher salary at your existing company is to walk into your managers office with a job offer from another company. Tried and true.
powerfool wrote: » I find it best to use "envy" as motivation rather than an excuse for being unhappy. You have a job... you are enrolled... work on that degree. My key piece of advice is to avoid that debt. Does the employer offer tuition reimbursement? Take advantage of it and keep a moderate pace... usually they limit you to about 6 credit hours per semester... I was impatient because I started school at a point where I desperately felt I should have already been done... so I was taking 12-16 credit hours per semester in the evenings... not only was it brutal from a work load and scheduling perspective, but since my employer wouldn't pay 100%, I took on loans to cover the difference (at a private school). Now, I did get some scholarships, but it all added up quickly. You don't have to go down that road. Do 6 credit hours per semester (or something reasonably similar), continue during your summers, and look for opportunities to lower the courses you need (like testing out). My biggest problem was not taking advantage of opportunities to test out. I tested out of only one course (a two credit hour course, but the test game me three credit hours) and used my high school foreign language to cover that requirement. I went out of my way to schedule a few courses that I could have easily tested out of because I thought that they would be enjoyable... yeah, not so much.
NavyIT wrote: » Maybe it has to do with the industry. I'm in government contracting and it's really common to switch jobs often. If you know your company needs you IMO you have nothing to lose. Of course you have to go about it the right way. Something like this: "I've got an offer from another company that reached out to me a couple weeks ago. I really enjoy my position here and appreciate the trust you all have put in me by giving me x,y,z additional responsibilities. I would really like to stay here but what jumped out at me was the salary they offered; it's 10,000 more than what I'm making now and they also seem to have better x/x/x benefits. I know you can't control the benefits but I was hoping that since I've taken on these additional responsibilities and have been performing well, that we could talk about increasing my salary." - You need to actually have that other job offer - You have to know your company needs you - You have to be ready to accept that other job offer if they don't meet your requirements. I've done it twice in 3 years and worked both times. My first job out of the Navy I started at 61k and 3 years later (almost to the day) I'm now making 105k. I've got a couple new meaningless certs, but nothing else but experience and attitude has changed.
Betrayal wrote: » You should not compare yourself to others like that, it will only lower your happiness. Instead think about what you can do to better yourself, getting educated is a good start.
ITSpectre wrote: » Eh it depends on the Job.... there has been threads about this about being wary of accepting the counter offer. Because the issue that comes up is... WHY do we have to threaten our employer with something else and say "Since I have taken on these responsibilities I have gotten an offer from company xyz... this is what they are offering can we talk about increasing my salary to counter that"?? IMO it would be better to take the other job then to continue to ask for a raise etc... from the same company because eventually it can get you jobless. That is like dangling a steak in front of a lion hoping to not get eaten... he will eat you and the steak. And honestly no company really NEEDS you... even if you prove you are an asset to a company they don't need anyone, because everyone is replaceable. A old co worker told me this "Never fully depend on any company... always have one foot in the door and one foot out... never make a permanent home in a temp situation"
NavyIT wrote: » Well the way you worded it and the way I worded it are totally different. Also, you mention threatening our employer which I didn't do or suggest. It's two professionals having a conversation about a career situation and working towards a resolution that keeps both parties happy.
$bvb379 wrote: » CCNTrainee To add to this, when I met one of my mentors he said to me that after he got his first IT job he simply was told to apply for other jobs in other companies from colleagues working there. He never applied blindly, he always knew someone at the company he was making a jump to, accompanied by raises of course.
dave330i wrote: » @reload@ Looks like you and I are using different metric to measure success.
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