the source of all evil
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Sie
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Had a training session from a MS trainer today and when asked he said personally he prefers to use Unix on servers rather than Windows!!
Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools -
Judd
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A comical look at the new Evil Empire...
http://intothegreen.blogspirit.com/archive/2005/10/04/the-insidious-evil-empire-known-as-wal-mart.html -
keatron
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I'm a Microsoft Certified Trainer and I prefer Unix and Linux depending on the situation/server usage. All in the same, I prefer 2000/2003 server in many instances too. It should always depend on the applicability of what the server is going to be used for. -
Sie
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Yet he is happy to make a good living off teaching MS products??? Hmmmmm
Yes its a strange irony.........Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools -
Webmaster
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"Working towards MCP, MCDST + MCSA 2003"Sie wrote:Yet he is happy to make a good living off teaching MS products??? Hmmmmm
Yes its a strange irony.........
What's funny is how this post turned into MS vs Linux. We've had some long discussions about this in the past, and you really shouldn't throw emotions and other subjective factors into the mix when choosing an OS or any product. As Keatron said: "It should always depend on the applicability of what the server is going to be used for".
Someone claimed a while ago that most servers run Linux anyway, I can't find the article right now, but Microsoft Windows dominates the corporate server market, not Linux or any *nix flavor. -
Sie
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"Working towards MCP, MCDST + MCSA 2003"
Never mentioned my own choice, just the comments from trainer.
(Personally i dont have enough Linux knowledge to comment from experience)
Would also agree (as you both said) it would depend on the what the server was used for and who was using , administrating the server.
PS: Wasnt trying to start a debate on them both!
Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools -
Webmaster
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You are right, you never mentioned preferring one over the other. But comments like "Had a training session from a MS trainer today and when asked he said personally he prefers to use Unix on servers rather than Windows!!" in response to a topic that isn't about that at all, tend to result into Linux vs MS debates often more loaded with personal preferences than facts. I should have used
instead of I guess, cause I wasn't trying to be sarcastic or anything.
That's a good point as well. When I started in IT there was the MS vs Novell debate, and I was asked to migrate a Netware 4.11 to NT 4 at a branch office. The local administrator had been working for Novell for almost a decade, and was about to retire in 8 months. So logically I recommended to postpone the migration (the only reason to migrate was to get a MS network throughout the entire enterprise, and there were plenty of other locations I could do first). And that's partly why the emotional subjective opinionated comments about Linux vs MS are so dangerous. CEO, incompetent IT managers, etc, etc, pick up these comments and when looking at the license fees for Linux they suddenly decide they should move everything to Linux 'because it is more secure'. Not a great way to keep the IT staff happy.who was using , administrating the server.
And to return to the topic: I thought the source of evil was **** -
strauchr
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^^
Spot on. I know people who choose IBM hardware and Lotus Notes software because they are 'IBM' people when it really is not suited to the situation (and IBM hardware is the WORST!) -
sprkymrk
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strauchr wrote:^^
Spot on. I know people who choose IBM hardware and Lotus Notes software because they are 'IBM' people when it really is not suited to the situation (and IBM hardware is the WORST!)
Woohoo! Let's start a thread for:-
Windows vs. Linux
IBM vs. Dell
Outlook vs. Notes
Coke vs. Pepsi
And I might as well say it before someone else does:
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil....
All things are possible, only believe. -
TeKniques
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We do exactly the same where I work. Even have a COKE machine instead of Pepsi.
And I hate the Software Engineers who constantly complain to me that they want to install Linux on their workstations because they are just so anti-MS. -
strauchr
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TeKniques wrote:We do exactly the same where I work. Even have a COKE machine instead of Pepsi.
And I hate the Software Engineers who constantly complain to me that they want to install Linux on their workstations because they are just so anti-MS.
Let them do it and then they will see how much work it is to get it to talk to the rest of environment, install drivers and see how much software they need will work on it.
Oops, lets not start the debate. :P
