fabostrong wrote: »
I watched it. I think it looks legit and teaches a lot. It just sucks that the name doesn't have much recognition or weight.
GT-Rob wrote: »
Expensive sort of, but the launch price isn't that bad.
for this week $1250 gets you up to the 'elite' package with the upgrade, which is pretty fair in the security course/cert market. The syllabus looks pretty indepth and might be a good real world compliment to something like OSCP. Hard to say. But tempting.
monkykap wrote: »
I wouldn't recommend. Tried the demo access and was not impressed. Didn't go into much detail, pointed out external resources and tools that can easily be googled. While the subject material is interesting (focus on Windows AD/PS) I think most of these topics can be found publicly and you with a little more effort try in your own lab setup which is necessary for this level of learning. Simply being able to repeat steps in the course provides no value to a Pentester.
Elearnsecurity is at a crossroads, their training is solid but too offensive focused and not industry recognized. It's too expensive to warrant paying out of pocket for enthusiasts but the quality is not high enough to warrant corporate training budget (might as well take GXPN or OffSec). Most of us are not pentesters and those that are should be able to learn these techniques w/o a course or would expect to get more out of one (there are only 4 labs).Bottom Line: ElearnSecurity is hit or miss with their courses, depending on the author and the amount of work they put into their course. Where as every course in SANS and OffSec is quality controlled.
I would say PTP: hit, PWD: hit, PTS: miss, WPTX: miss, MASPT: miss, and now PTXP: miss
Advice: They need to spend some time introducing their brand to Fortune 500s etc. and create sharper professional marketing materials so students can get an actual return on their investment. They claim they are recognized but we all know this is not true...time to hire a real Marketing team and stop the grassroots stuff...
jm0202 wrote: »
@monkeycap: You indicated "I would say PTP: hit, PWD: hit, PTS: miss, WPTX: miss, MASPT: miss, and now PTXP: miss" /QUOTE]
What about eWPT (which is separate from eWPTX) and for me also what criteria did you use to rate a hit or miss?
We can all be influenced better if you have evidence instead of going on a hunch to make recommendations/decisions on the forum.
monkykap wrote: »
I've taken PTS, PWD, MASPT. PWD had a lot more slides and labs and in general work put into the construction of the course and I really liked it. PTS is okay...it's a beginner course so I found it underwhelming as there are free alternatives. MASPT was definitely underwhelming and many reviews reflect that. I haven't taken PTP but from the reviews and the amount of content/labs it's easy to tell it's one of their best courses. I haven't seen any rave reviews about WAPTX, the ones i've seen all mention being "underwhelmed". A few folks who weren't high on WAPTX have been high on WAPT even though WAPTX should have more "interesting/advanced" material. My point is there was a lot more work put into construction of some courses compared to others despite the pricing being very similar. I have a "feeling" based on the demo module WSUS that PTX will be like WAPTX and "underwhelm" folks especially at the asking price. You can google most topics in any course so there should be a lot of slides/labs and videos to provide learning opportunity and it doesn't seem that is the case (they didn't advertise the number of slides/labs/videos for PTX but demo module was short and there are only 4 labs total). Generally their courses that have a lot of slides/labs/videos are have been very good, but when the don't they have been underwhelming. Each course tends to have different authors who construct the course their own way. Nothing is standardized including the exam. My two cents.
xxxkaliboyxxx wrote: »
Thanks for the response, the 4 labs is suspect in PTX. I wonder if they will be adding more labs.
asurania wrote: »
i figured just sign up....i was going to sign up for PTP Elite - which is usually $1300 USD, and with there promotion - both courses ended up being $1800 USD....so only $500 more.... so figured perfect time....i
I will finish PTS, then do PTP and PTX and then OSCP. Only debate is if i should do CISSP before OSCP.
xxxkaliboyxxx wrote: »
Another way of looking at it is by A cost-benefit analysis. Do you see the benefit in your case of $900 dollars being well spent? Think about the home server you could buy or cloud time you could get. Also consider the time it would take to set all that up. $900 dollars could be worth it for some.