Internal promotion but no pay raise

loss4words83

Hey guys,

Just wanted to get your thoughts on this. I am currently working in a Helpdesk team in a supervisor/escalation role. I am now being promoted to the IT Operations team with a lot more responsibilities (SCCM, VMWare, AD/GPO, Azure, NetApp). After asking for a salary adjustments due to added responsibilities I was told that it was not possible due to COVID (company did lose money at the beginning of pandemic but is back on track and doing well currently). New manager said he will look into giving me extra stock options (one time company stock buy worth around 3% my salary), but that didn't sound too enticing to me.

I guess I can ask again a in year or two for the salary adjustment again when hopefully the world gets back to normal, but I'm sure from their end they will not want to do it since I'm doing the work already.

Just wanted to get your thoughts on the situation and if you had some advice?

balance

I would get that in writing or you will never see your raise. 

E Double U

Ask if management received raises/bonuses. If the answer is no because raises are on hold companywide then I would be understandable. If not, take on the additional responsibility (assuming it interests you) to give your resume a boost and then look for something else.

JDMurray

loss4words83 said:

New manager said he will look into giving me extra ...

Your manager already knows what s/he can and can't give you. This sort of thing is discussed endlessly in management meetings under the category of "retaining employees." You will need to consider all other aspects of your new position and decide if your job it still worth doing despite the lack of an immediate salary increase. If not, start looking elsewhere.

greg9891

Yeah @loss4words83 I would start looking elsewhere because. Those change in titles without pay is dangerous. If they don't pay you upfront when you are promoted and you start doing the work. They likely won't pay you for work they can get you to do for free. I would update my resume and start job hunting.

scaredoftests

Wow, what a crock of manure. Start looking for another job if the company has a mindset like that one..

DatabaseHead

@loss4words83

You obviously know your situation better than all of us combine.  With that said (and I am working off of limited info) I would consider learning as much as you can for the next year in the role and then leverage it into a higher level OPS position. 

I guess my first question is do you even like the new role?

scott28tt

Lots of companies haven’t given promotions or pay increases in the last 12 months, well done on getting one of them plus some stock in lieu of the other.

gbutler

Hi loss4words83,

Congratulations first on your new role.

I would like to say that based on your previous role(which is not clear), the new role seems to have lot of learning curve, with new skills you get a nice pay after one year of experience.

If you really feel money your problem then you are open to find new job.

at  last i would like to say "Anyone can take your tools and techniques but not your skills!"

Good luck!

greg9891

Interesting situation, the stocks are good but that kind of behavior by companies are red flags to me. In this case the promotion should have come with a raise. But its good that you get to work with all those technologies. Just add them to your resume just incase things don't work out.

TechGromit

loss4words83 said:

Hey guys,

I am now being promoted to the IT Operations team with a lot more responsibilities (SCCM, VMWare, AD/GPO, Azure, NetApp).

I guess I can ask again a in year or two for the salary adjustment again when hopefully the world gets back to normal, but I'm sure from their end they will not want to do it since I'm doing the work already.

Just wanted to get your thoughts on the situation and if you had some advice?

In a year or two, use that experience to start applying for positions elsewhere. See if those skills are valued elsewhere. You could ask for a raise then, but I would advise against using a position elsewhere as leverage for get a raise, while you may get the raise, in the long run it rarely works out, they will look to replace you soon as it convenience for them to do so. If the market values your skills significantly more than your current employer, then it's time to make a change. Also you may want to consider industries that were not affected or even benefits from the current pandemic situation to insulate yourself against future employment disruptions. . 

Johnhe0414

scaredoftests said:

Wow, what a crock of manure. Start looking for another job if the company has a mindset like that one..

I agree - time to look elsewhere. I did the same thing a couple of decades ago, the big guy kept avoiding me until i submitted my letter of resignation. Then ...* POOF* - i was offered a raise but i didn't care, i left and never looked back. There is opportunity out there...just need to find it.

thomas_

I had a similar situation happen to me.  It took me 18 months to receive the increase in pay. Ultimately, I think it helped me transition to other internal roles in the company though.