What give you the Senior network engenieer title???

NightShade1

I was wondering that... guess when i finish up my degree on the university of engenieer ill be network engenieer but what does give you the title of Senior Network Engenier?

NPA24

Any title that has senior in it is determined by experience in that field.

NightShade1

So its actually a selfproclamed title you give yourself after having good experience in the field??? O_o

computerguy9355

The word "Senior" means few things

1. You have more experience
2. You can hit the ground running
3. You know what to do when there is a problem
4. You have more knowledage than the "Junior" engineers

Thats all

Its nothing more than a self proclaimed title to prove your expertise in your field.

NightShade1

Heh thank you

Darthn3ss

oh, my dad owns the company.....

sprkymrk

NightShade1 wrote:

So its actually a selfproclamed title you give yourself after having good experience in the field??? O_o

In most cases it is a title given you by your employer, not yourself.

Plantwiz

sprkymrk wrote:

NightShade1 wrote:

So its actually a selfproclamed title you give yourself after having good experience in the field??? O_o

In most cases it is a title given you by your employer, not yourself.

Should be given by the employer. However, I know of a guy who has given it too himself and he's far from outranking the rest of the staff on anything other then his real age. The owner and two of the other techs can work circles around him.

Like other 'titles'...it's just some words. Your work says much more.

Kasor

This is a very good question. I think "computerguy9355" reply the truth answer.

sir_creamy_

Proper E n GlisH.

boyles23

Plantwiz

sir_creamy_ wrote:

Proper E n GlisH.

Was this comment really necessary?

sprkymrk

Plantwiz wrote:

sprkymrk wrote:

NightShade1 wrote:

So its actually a selfproclamed title you give yourself after having good experience in the field??? O_o

In most cases it is a title given you by your employer, not yourself.

Should be given by the employer. However, I know of a guy who has given it too himself and he's far from outranking the rest of the staff on anything other then his real age. The owner and two of the other techs can work circles around him.

So why does the owner let him call himself that? If I work for a company as a tech and have my business cards printed up with the title of Vice President I'm thinking the boss wouldn't find it very amusing.

bmauro

sprkymrk - I hope your wrong. Cause that would mean I should change my self-appointed title on my cards...

"Supreme Technician and Ruling Tyrant"

sculler

These days HR departments are getting to be more consistent about job titles. For older organizations they have implemented audits for titles and then standardized the titles.

I once worked for a 200 year old university that did this. One of the titles that came up under the old list was King of the mailroom. I never found out what title this gentlemen ended up with, but the title King of the mailroom did disapear.

Most organizations I have worked for did have both Admin and Sr. Admin titles. In most cases the people with Sr. in the title earned it by demonstrating skills and by completing significant projects. In all cases these titles were confired on them by their boss with approval by HR.

Sculler

sir_creamy_

Yes. The english language is a beautiful thing, my friend.

Kaminsky

It's annoying not having a standard title especially on resumes where you have to explain what the title actually means you do. Take infrastructure technician for example. Is that networks? Estates? what? Network engineer on the other hand shows exactly what it says on the tin.

stompy

Kaminsky wrote:

It's annoying not having a standard title especially on resumes where you have to explain what the title actually means you do. Take infrastructure technician for example. Is that networks? Estates? what? Network engineer on the other hand shows exactly what it says on the tin.

IMO, no one has a title until a title is given by your employer. If your jobless, your title is nothing. Its just your name, and the certs/degree's that go along with it. You can't claim yourself to be an engineer, even if you have the qualifications, unless you have a specific job that gives you that title.

Example.. If you have a Bacholers in Education.. you can't proclaim yourself a Teacher when in fact you work at a gas station and not a school.

sprkymrk

bmauro wrote:

sprkymrk - I hope your wrong. Cause that would mean I should change my self-appointed title on my cards...

"Supreme Technician and Ruling Tyrant"

Oh, so that means you work for me, since my title is:

Super-Duper Universe Dictator of Supreme Technicians and Ruling Tyrants

plettner

NightShade1 wrote:

I was wondering that... guess when i finish up my degree on the university of engenieer ill be network engenieer but what does give you the title of Senior Network Engenier?

Also, if you "look after" or mentor a small team of juniors. You may not be a supervisor of manager, but you might have some management duties of a small team such as allocating holidays and leave, or allocating basic tasks.

This may qualify you for a "senior" title.

Slowhand

Plantwiz wrote:

sir_creamy_ wrote:

Proper E n GlisH.

Was this comment really necessary?

Not really. Considering that the location listed is Panama, I think NightShade1's English is pretty good. Seeing as how there's a lot of people that are writing in their second (or even third) language on here, I think we can be a little more forgiving of typos and grammatical errors, and focus on the actual questions asked instead.

garv221

NightShade1 wrote:

what does give you the title of Senior Network Engenier?

Your employer. Given to the seasoned and higher paid engineers.

sir_creamy_

Slowhand wrote:

Plantwiz wrote:

sir_creamy_ wrote:

Proper E n GlisH.

Was this comment really necessary?

Not really. Considering that the location listed is Panama, I think NightShade1's English is pretty good. Seeing as how there's a lot of people that are writing in their second (or even third) language on here, I think we can be a little more forgiving of typos and grammatical errors, and focus on the actual questions asked instead.

He asked the question, I provided the answer. You're not going to get far in an English driven country if you can't speak the native tongue.

Slowhand

sir_creamy_ wrote:

He asked the question, I provided the answer. You're not going to get far in an English driven country if you can't speak the native tongue.

What you provided was a derogatory comment, specifically formatted to berate, instead of constructive criticism. As for NightShade1's English, it's pretty good for not being in an English-speaking country.

NightShade1

lol thank you guys...
I actually think my english isnt that good... but i got enough knowledge to speak, read and understand. I can read books in english with NO problem(all my books of Cisco are in english i actually dont have any book of networking in spanish they are all in english)

But like i said before i think my english isnt that good... for me, having a good english means i can speak it FLUENTLY and understand EVERYTHING that someone speaks me, i cant understand at the 100% if someone speak me too fast... i actually can read and write (yeah with some grammatical errors :P ) pretty good i think.

Yes i do have grammatical errors... but what i need is what my sis did, she lived in USA for like some months and then her english that was like mine was really fluent... she came back here now she went back to USA and she live there with no problem.

So actually i can actually get far in an English driven country. My sis is the prove of it because she have been living in USA for like 2 years.

sir_creamy_

Hmmmm, not quite.

"English is also recognized as an official language and is spoken widely on the Caribbean coast and by many in business and professional fields."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama

If you want to get technical, English is considered an official language of Panama.

sprkymrk

Hey Nightshade, in the USA you would be very valuable in many locations because you are bilingual for all practical purposes. I didn't even notice you were from Panama, nor did I even understand Sir Creamy's comment until he replied to Slowhand, so it must be pretty good.

sir_creamy_

sprkymrk wrote:

Hey Nightshade, in the USA you would be very valuable in many locations because you are bilingual for all practical purposes. I didn't even notice you were from Panama, nor did I even understand Sir Creamy's comment until he replied to Slowhand, so it must be pretty good.

That's why I love ya sprky! You're always full of surprises

NightShade1

well si creamy... like 50% of the population here dont speak english.

sprkymrk well yes i guess, here in panama you can get a job just because you are bilingual, in call centers you get a good salary i guess, but i dont really like that kind of job i actually hate them

sprkymrk

sir_creamy_ wrote:

sprkymrk wrote:

Hey Nightshade, in the USA you would be very valuable in many locations because you are bilingual for all practical purposes. I didn't even notice you were from Panama, nor did I even understand Sir Creamy's comment until he replied to Slowhand, so it must be pretty good.

That's why I love ya sprky! You're always full of surprises

Back at ya sir_creamy_.

drakhan2002

I once knew a Unix admin who worked at a .com during the boom who's title was:

"Queen of the Universe"

She was the most senior admin on the staff and that was the actualy HR/company title for her. She was cool to boot!