About to be offered new job but one minor problem...
Thiassi
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Ok, I think I need some advice on this one...
I'm about to be offered a new job but before it is offered I've been asked to fill out an online health questionnaire.
Now, one of the questions is "how many days off have you had the past 2 years?" and there reference to self certified or medically certified or a box for additional notes.
Right, well, I've had numerous operations in the past two years (3 months off for 2 retinal detachment ops and 5 weeks of for a serious eye infection which I was admitted over) which, without context, would make my sick leave days look REALLY bad. Plus some odd flu bouts here and there (nothing unusual really).
Ok. So I guess what I'm looking for here is whether I should be stating either only self certified, medically certified or both? Obviously medical certs are trackable via my GP (which they ask details for) but what about self certs with my current employer?
I don't want to lie AT ALL but I don't want to shot myself in the foot at the same time. Is sick leave something that is asked within reference requests to an employer?
Ugh, awesome job about to be offered and I've now got a sinking feeling this is going to bite me in the arse.
Damned eye is a curse!
I'm about to be offered a new job but before it is offered I've been asked to fill out an online health questionnaire.
Now, one of the questions is "how many days off have you had the past 2 years?" and there reference to self certified or medically certified or a box for additional notes.
Right, well, I've had numerous operations in the past two years (3 months off for 2 retinal detachment ops and 5 weeks of for a serious eye infection which I was admitted over) which, without context, would make my sick leave days look REALLY bad. Plus some odd flu bouts here and there (nothing unusual really).
Ok. So I guess what I'm looking for here is whether I should be stating either only self certified, medically certified or both? Obviously medical certs are trackable via my GP (which they ask details for) but what about self certs with my current employer?
I don't want to lie AT ALL but I don't want to shot myself in the foot at the same time. Is sick leave something that is asked within reference requests to an employer?
Ugh, awesome job about to be offered and I've now got a sinking feeling this is going to bite me in the arse.
Damned eye is a curse!
~Thiassi
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hypnotoad Banned Posts: 915How would they know -- either call your hospital/doctor, which requires a release of information, or call your current employer, which i don't think they can tell them that??
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JDMurray Admin Posts: 13,092 Admincisco_trooper wrote:Isn't that against the law??
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filkenjitsu Member Posts: 564 ■■■■□□□□□□I would be honest with them about the surgeries and major injuries, as well as your sick time. Just get medical records or at least tell them you are willing to show them your medical records for past major injuries, and explain they are not an issue anymore.CISSP, CCNA SP
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blargoe Member Posts: 4,174 ■■■■■■■■■□No reason to lie.IT guy since 12/00
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Mishra Member Posts: 2,468 ■■■■□□□□□□Isn't asking about your health BEFORE you get a job not permitted? Can't you say you don't want to disclose your medical history until actually having an offer?
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Schluep Member Posts: 346Mishra wrote:Isn't asking about your health BEFORE you get a job not permitted? Can't you say you don't want to disclose your medical history until actually having an offer?
I'm sure in many parts of the world it is perfectly legal and acceptable, just like it is against the law in many others. As for the UK I am not sure, but it is something to check into Thiassi to check into. Also, just because it is legal to ask does not mean you are required to respond and you could state that you would prefer not to disclose the information.
Above all be honest. Whatever you say make sure it is the truth. If you choose not to disclose it that is your perogative, but definitely do not lie about it. I was sick for 6 years and am always honest about it with people and that has never come back to hurt me since. A few months should be easy to explain especially if you are admitted for it, had two operations performed, and the issue has been resolved. If the issue is not fully resolved then it will definitely be more of an issue to explain. -
Darthn3ss Member Posts: 1,096wait whats this world thing you guys are talking about? the US is pretty big and doesn't really leave room for much else. The UK must be one of those silly islands in the Caribbean.Fantastic. The project manager is inspired.
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Thiassi Member Posts: 167Thanks for the replies everyone.Schluep wrote:Mishra wrote:Isn't asking about your health BEFORE you get a job not permitted? Can't you say you don't want to disclose your medical history until actually having an offer?
I'm sure in many parts of the world it is perfectly legal and acceptable, just like it is against the law in many others. As for the UK I am not sure, but it is something to check into Thiassi to check into. Also, just because it is legal to ask does not mean you are required to respond and you could state that you would prefer not to disclose the information.
Above all be honest. Whatever you say make sure it is the truth. If you choose not to disclose it that is your perogative, but definitely do not lie about it. I was sick for 6 years and am always honest about it with people and that has never come back to hurt me since. A few months should be easy to explain especially if you are admitted for it, had two operations performed, and the issue has been resolved. If the issue is not fully resolved then it will definitely be more of an issue to explain.
I really never wanted to lie at all about it because, above all, it would most likely come back to haunt me after starting the job and it is simply a sackable offence.
The company sent me an online health questionnaire to fill out and it did have an option at the start as to whether I wanted to share this personal info. I don't imagine it would look too great if I had chosen not to disclose.
I was upfront about my previous and current problems. I'll see how it goes down tomorrow.
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Thiassi Member Posts: 167After a few queries about the condition and reassurances, I got offered the job today.~Thiassi
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dtlokee Member Posts: 2,378 ■■■■□□□□□□Congrats!
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snadam Member Posts: 2,234 ■■■■□□□□□□Thiassi wrote:After a few queries about the condition and reassurances, I got offered the job today.
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Sie Member Posts: 1,195Congratulations! Its nice to hear that honesty has proven to be the best policy.
Best of luck in the new post!
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Thiassi Member Posts: 167Thanks lads. I'm very happy about the prospect of a new challenge.Sie wrote:Congratulations! Its nice to hear that honesty has proven to be the best policy.
Best of luck in the new post!
PS: You never mentioned what the job was??
Well, I've been in local Government for the past 7 years doing 1st/2nd support, the job I was just offered is a sole IT support role in a branch office doing 1st/2nd/3rd line support.
The package being offered wasn't too much more than what I'm currently on but money was never for wanting to leave.
I was really looking for more responsibility and to gain MUCH more experience from this new role. Plus the company has more career progress opportunities than in my current position.
Now just to get everything signed and then hand my 6 week (damn it) notice in hopefully on Monday.~Thiassi