ccvp home lab info

chchristie

hi,

I am setting up the CCVP lab at home and I have the following items:

SWITCHES--
2924M-XL-A
2912-XL- EN
3548-XL-EN

ROUTERS
3640
2621 WITH 2 ETHERNET PORTS,WIC1T
2511
2612 WITH TOKEN RING,WIC1T,CSU/DSU
2610XM WITH FAST ETHERNET

VERY BASIC QUESTION WHAT DO I HAVE TO ADD TO MAKE THIS CCVP TO THE FULLEST SO I CAN GET STARTED.

ANY HELP WOULD BE REALLY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU

mikej412

Check out the CCVP FAQ

For QoS you'll want 2950s and 3550s (or 2960s and 3560 or 3750s) switches. Inline power would be nice, but power cubes are cheaper. Your switches are good only for connecting things together.

Your existing routers should work for QoS, depending on the interfaces you have available for them.

After the I want to setup my own home CCVP lab. What should I buy and how do I set it up? section of the CCVP FAQ, there's a link to the CCIE Voice Track Lab Equipment and IOS Version (but don't let that scare you, you don't need all that -- not much Unity, and no IPCC or CME in the CCVP). Then there are links to the IP Telephony Deployment Models -- use those as a guide for growing your home lab. Start with a single site. Add Callmanager (or Unified Communications Manager) and a branch office or two to build your lab out for the Multisite Deployment Model with Centralized Call Processing. Then decide how much money you really want to spend on a home voice lab -- you may decide to pass on the Multisite Distributed model. .

The MC3810s mentioned are the all-in-one cheap solution for building a beginning home voice lab.

Then if you cruise down to the Hardware Documentation Links you'll basically be looking for analog interfaces and digital interfaces for your lab. For your existing routers, you'd want to get at least a couple NM-2V modules that would work in the 3640 or 2600s. Add some VIC-2FXS and VIC-2FXO ports to those. You may also want to try for some VIC-2EM ports, and just swap them in somewhere to try some E&M interface configurations. The NM-1V and NM-2V carriers aren't as expensive as they had been, and I've been seeing some under $50. The VICs go for around $50 each if you shop around eBay and wait for a good deal.

For the digital interfaces, you want a couple NM-HDV modules with VWIC-1MFT-T1 or VWIC-2MFT-T1. They may or may not come with the PVDMs installed -- so take that into consideration when bidding on eBay. When you price these, you'll see why I like the MC3810s so much.

Toss in a Callmanager server, some 7940 or 7960 (or 7941 or 7961 or 7971) IP Phones, a couple analog phones, and a couple FAX machines (or computers with FAX modems and software) and you probably have enough to get by with.

If that hasn't scared you away, welcome to the Forum

Flyingput

Hi Mike,


May I ask you a lab question about CIPT exam?
I just got the official self-study book. It seems it's all about Call Manager. I am planning to run it on Vmware together with several IP Phones (hard and soft phones). I am wondering if I need something more for the lab part. Could you enlighten me a little? Thanks a bunch!

mikej412

Flyingput wrote:

I am wondering if I need something more for the lab part.

You'd probably want the whole enchilada when you get to CIPT.

You'd want your gateways and gatekeepers -- since you'd be using CallManager to configure them. You'll want the analog and digital ports in your voice routers and gateways -- otherwise you really don't have that much you can configure.

You'll want DSP resources somewhere in your lab, so you can configure transcoding and conferencing.

I've got the home hardware lab, so I haven't tried much with Dynamips for Voice. It could save you some money on routers (like for Gatekeepers, Gatekeeper Clusters, and SRST) but you'll need some real hardware for some of the things I mentioned above.

Flyingput

Appreciate it, Mike!

I am reading the CCVP FAQ lab section one by one now. I am afraid I need to be patient to find a specific equipment set on eBay for my CIPT.

It's great to learn from experienced and warm-hearted IT guys.

chchristie

THanks guys but i am still in the beginning so some of that single site stuff is blowing my mind but tell me is this a good buy.

FS: Cisco MC3810 Router MC3810-V3 AVM-6FXO MFT-T1 HCM2 Voip $129.00

Cisco MC3810-V3 Voice router
16MB Flash
64MB Ram
AVM-6FXO Card
HCM2 - 2DSP High Compression Module
MFT-TBS Card installed
Unit looks and works great!

Show version Below:

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) MC3810 Software (MC3810-A2ISV5-M), Version 12.2(7c), RELEASE SOFTWARE (
fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 10-May-02 22:44 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x00023000, data-base: 0x00DEDF74

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(7r)XK, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
ROM: MC3810 Software (MC3810-WBOOT-M), Version 12.0(7r)XK, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc
1)

Router uptime is 2 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is "flash:mc3810-a2isv5-mz.122-7c.bin"

cisco MC3810-V3 (MPC860P) processor (revision 18.07) with 57344K/8192K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 24584601
PPC860 PowerQUICC, partnum 0x0005, version X02(0x0002)
Channelized E1, Version 1.0.
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
Primary Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
Basic Rate ISDN software,
Version 1.1.
MC3810 SCB board (v01.F0)
1 Multiflex T1(slot 3) RJ45(balanced), BRI S/T interface(v02.A0)
1 Six-Slot Analog Voice Module (v07.B0)
1 Analog FXO voice interface (v04.B0) port 1/1
1 Analog FXO voice interface (v04.B0) port 1/2
1 Analog FXO voice interface (v04.B0) port 1/3
1 Analog FXO voice interface (v04.B0) port 1/4
1 Analog FXO voice interface (v04.B0) port 1/5
1 Analog FXO voice interface (v04.B0) port 1/6
1 2-DSP(slot2) High Performance Compression Module(v01.A0)
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
1 Serial network interface(s)
2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
1 Channelized T1/PRI port(s)
256K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (AMD29F016)

Configuration register is 0x2142

chchristie

If i do have the mc3810, what else would i need to get and how much of each do i need initially. My thing is this i want to get everything and start and dont stop until i am done because i attend 2 schools plus 40 hr work week with little time to spare. I also saw these labs on ebay and i wanted to know which of them would fulfill my ccvp lab requirements better.
LAB 1:
2 x 2924 (IOS) Switches
o Conduct 802.1Q Multi-VLAN Trunking
o Inter-VLAN Routing
o STP / VLAN / MLS
• 1 x 1924 Switches
o Complete Spanning Tree Loop
• 1 x 3640 Router
o Call Manager Express (CME) for CCVP
 FULL VOIP PBX
o 12.4 IOS
o MAX RAM
o NM-2e2w
o WIC-1T
• 1 x 2610 Routers
o 12.3 IOS
o FireWall / IDS / VPN
o WIC-1T
• 2 x 7940 Phones
o VOIP to CME PBX
o FULL ASTERISK PBX COPY
o SIP / SCCP / MGCP
o Power Cubes
• 1 x 2500 Routers
o Integrated 10BT (No-AUI)
o MAX RAM
LAB 2
1 x Cisco 3640 (12.4 IOS + Cisco Call Manager Express)
o 1 x Cisco 2610 (12.3 IOS)
o 1 x Cisco MC3810-V
 1 x MC3810-AVM-6
 1 x MC3810-HCM2 (2 DSP Voice Compression Module)
 3 x MC3810-APM-FXS
o 2 x Cisco Catalyst 2924 Enterprise Switch
o 1 x Cisco Catalyst 1900 with Latest Enterprise Software
o 1 x Cisco 7960 IP Phone
o 1 x Cisco 7912 IP Phone
o 1 x WIC-1T
o 1 x NM-4A/S
o 1 x NM-1E2W
o 2 x Serial DCE/DTE Crossover Cable
o 1 x Console Cable
o 6 x Power Cords
o 2 x Ethernet Straight Cables
o 1 x Ethernet Crossover Cables

mikej412

chchristie wrote:

is this a good buy.

FS: Cisco MC3810 Router MC3810-V3 AVM-6FXO MFT-T1 HCM2 Voip $129.00

That would definitely be at the "high end" -- but it still has a good bang for the buck ratio (since the MC3810 market seems to be drying up).

Kit 2 would give you a MC3810 with 3 FXS ports, but you really wouldn't want the switches in either kit. Other than the CallManager Express Software, the routers aren't an improvement over what you already have.

You'd want at least a few "good phones" (794x.796x/797x) -- the 7912 in the 2nd kit works fine as an "extra phone" somewhere.