Gap analysis? Which Phase is it done in

michael_knight

Is Gap Analysis done during the Prepare Phase or the Plan Phase? In the notes section it says Pepare although in the Question section of the Exam Certification Guide it says Plan. and is Prepare done before Plan? The book has me confused.

tech-airman

michael_knight wrote:

Is Gap Analysis done during the Prepare Phase or the Plan Phase? In the notes section it says Pepare although in the Question section of the Exam Certification Guide it says Plan. and is Prepare done before Plan? The book has me confused.

michael_knight,

What is Gap Analysis?

michael_knight

Honestly I didn't know myself but a quick google search says "The difference between what is needed and what is available"

mikej412

tech-airman wrote:

What is Gap Analysis?

The difference between what you need and what the salesperson thinks they can sell you.

A gap analysis is just the difference between what you have and what you need.

I thought you did the gap analysis pre-sales, to maximize work, sales, and revenue

I've always been annoyed by some of the terms they use..... but then I always liked the spiral approach, since each phase may have it own preparation, planning, implementation, and maintenance needs.

Wait a second -- which phase are they doing requirements now? It's hard to keep track with Cisco.

I'd suggest using the Reference Sheets to break the tie -- and if it's not mentioned in the reference sheets, then don't worry about it.

malcybood

michael_knight wrote:

Is Gap Analysis done during the Prepare Phase or the Plan Phase? In the notes section it says Pepare although in the Question section of the Exam Certification Guide it says Plan. and is Prepare done before Plan? The book has me confused.

the gap analysis is done at the plan phase of the ppdioo model.

the gap analysis task is to determine whether the existing site, system infrastructure and operational environment will be able to support the propsed system.

the order is prepare, plan, design, implement, operate, optimize

malcybood

mikej412 wrote:

Wait a second -- which phase are they doing requirements now? It's hard to keep track with Cisco.

identifying business needs and proposing a high level conceptual network strategy/architecture is done at the prepare stage for the 640-863 exam.

I think they rolled requirements into the plan stage on the 861 exam, but its defo changed now.

mikej412

malcybood wrote:

the gap analysis is done at the plan phase of the ppdioo model.

Ah Ha! It's also done at the Planning phase of Cisco Service-Oriented Network Architecture (SONA) -- once you peel the "layers" and get to the SONA Framework....

mikej412

malcybood wrote:

I think they rolled requirements into the plan stage on the 861 exam, but its defo changed now.

Ah Ha!! That explains the CCDE!!! It takes that much expertise to keep up with Cisco's design methodology (and marketing) changes

Now I'm wondering if the old SAFE Blueprints have been replaced by a SONA Security Framework Quick!! Is there a CCDE in the forum?

malcybood

SAFE is replaced by the Cisco SDN (Self Defending Network) plus some stuff about security policies to make it a bit more generic I think.

yeah it does get rather confusing wth SONA, ppdioo, OSI recap & there is also the IIN framework to learn in the 863!

who would have thought so many models involved in studying the CCDA huh

michael_knight

LOL so is the Gap analysis in the Plan or prepared? I appreciate you all taking the time to help me. I really want to pass!

shednik

mikej412 wrote:

Now I'm wondering if the old SAFE Blueprints have been replaced by a SONA Security Framework Quick!! Is there a CCDE in the forum?

How many CCDEs are there now in all, did they make a CCDE verification tool yet?

mikej412

shednik wrote:

How many CCDEs are there now in all, did they make a CCDE verification tool yet?

I'm guessing none -- unless they already granted the CCDE to the people who are writing the Lab Exams. The CCDE page still has "Step Two: CCDE Practical Exam" listed as still in development.

Hey -- I think I found a book on the CCDE Reading list that I don't own (and haven't read)!

michael_knight wrote:

so is the Gap analysis in the Plan or prepared?

Wait -- we don't have a quorum Let me see if I misread the SONA stuff. I might have just gotten prepare and plan phases mixed up

mikej412

malcybood wrote:

the gap analysis is done at the plan phase of the ppdioo model.

2 references to Gap Analysis in the Exam Cert Guide and 2 References in Teare's Self-Study Designing for Cisco Internetwork Solutions (DESGN) book all point to PPDIOO PLAN phase.

The Question that has prepare -- also has 2 C answers and no F answer

PLAN it is!

And Gap Analysis isn't mentioned at all in the Quick Reference Sheet.

michael_knight

You guys rock! Now for the Next installment of CCDA Jeopardy...look for my next post!