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Tech109 wrote: Bottom line: Certs and/or degree will get you the interview. Experience will get you the job. The person interviewing you will know whether or not your really know your stuff by how you respond to the technical questions. You can't BS your way through an interview if the person conducting it knows their tech. If you're looking for an entry-level helpdesk job, they'll cut you some slack as long as they know you can problem-solve and troubleshoot. For higher-up jobs, even desktop support, they want to know that you've actually worked with the technology in a similar environment. It's the same in other tech fields, like programming and engineering.
Mishra wrote: snadam wrote: certs vs degree?!?!?!? or more like
snadam wrote: certs vs degree?!?!?!?
aaronmac5 wrote: I'm out of college for 2 years now and I can safely say I remmember almost nothing from my 4 years in college. Sad how people think real life experience is worth less than having a degree (sometimes).
learningtofly22 wrote: Netaddict wrote: dynamik wrote: Do you have a link for their regional accreditation? That's the most important one to have (national is more for specialty schools, like flight school), and they do not list it on their accreditation page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/accreditation.jsp Also, check out this page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/approvals.jsp Some of those really don't look too good. Minnesota doesn't seem to take too well to them, which might be why I don't think they have a great reputation. Check your state on that list. You might want to look into Capella and/or WGU as well:http://www.capella.edu/about_capella/accreditation.aspxhttp://www.wgu.edu/about_WGU/accreditation.asp http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/75th_anniversary.jsp 1981, Like i said i want it all, i want my Certs and my degree with with some Internship while im in School. Yea i know its not cheap, but i have just about 54k (i put $1800 instead of $1200 for my GI bill) left in my GI Bill which expires may 22 2012, back in 2002 will attending CC it was $1038, direct deposit Rate for my $1500 for 36 Month Full time student.. Like i stated early, I want Certs, and internships while I'm in school, this was never a "Cert vs Degree" issue u cant go wrong with both in my opinion with some internship will in school to get some more Experience.. Welcome to the forums, DevilDog! One question, when did you get out of the Corps? I'm guessing around 2002 since your MGIB expires 2012. If you've served for 3 years after 9/11, or got out after 9/11 as a disabled vet, Pres. Bush just signed a SWEET upgrade to the MGIB. Even if you didn't serve a full 3 years after 9/11, you can still get a percentage of the benefits (40% for 90 days of active service after 9/11). Only downside is it doesn't start until Aug 2009, however, it does extend your MGIB expiration by 5 years as well. This drastically changes my college picture, that's for sure! I'll be applying to one of the "southern ivies" next year b/c of this, where I wouldn't have had a chance at affording it before. The new GI Bill pays up to 100% of the most expensive tuition in your state, PLUS $1000 a year for books, PLUS BAH for your zip code if you're in school full time(no distance learning though, but with BAH you can take a pay cut to go to school)!!!!! Take a look at this link, I really hope it applies to you too.http://www.gibill.va.gov/S22/Post_911_Factsheet.pdf Semper fi, even if you are a grimy devil dog, haha! V/R ET2(SW/MTS) Conner, USN 1999-2007
Netaddict wrote: dynamik wrote: Do you have a link for their regional accreditation? That's the most important one to have (national is more for specialty schools, like flight school), and they do not list it on their accreditation page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/accreditation.jsp Also, check out this page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/approvals.jsp Some of those really don't look too good. Minnesota doesn't seem to take too well to them, which might be why I don't think they have a great reputation. Check your state on that list. You might want to look into Capella and/or WGU as well:http://www.capella.edu/about_capella/accreditation.aspxhttp://www.wgu.edu/about_WGU/accreditation.asp http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/75th_anniversary.jsp 1981, Like i said i want it all, i want my Certs and my degree with with some Internship while im in School. Yea i know its not cheap, but i have just about 54k (i put $1800 instead of $1200 for my GI bill) left in my GI Bill which expires may 22 2012, back in 2002 will attending CC it was $1038, direct deposit Rate for my $1500 for 36 Month Full time student.. Like i stated early, I want Certs, and internships while I'm in school, this was never a "Cert vs Degree" issue u cant go wrong with both in my opinion with some internship will in school to get some more Experience..
dynamik wrote: Do you have a link for their regional accreditation? That's the most important one to have (national is more for specialty schools, like flight school), and they do not list it on their accreditation page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/accreditation.jsp Also, check out this page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/approvals.jsp Some of those really don't look too good. Minnesota doesn't seem to take too well to them, which might be why I don't think they have a great reputation. Check your state on that list. You might want to look into Capella and/or WGU as well:http://www.capella.edu/about_capella/accreditation.aspxhttp://www.wgu.edu/about_WGU/accreditation.asp
benevolent dictator wrote: aaronmac5 wrote: I'm out of college for 2 years now and I can safely say I remmember almost nothing from my 4 years in college. Sad how people think real life experience is worth less than having a degree (sometimes). You think you don't remember anything, but trust me, you do. I hadn't programmed in about 2 years, but I was given a project to do, and I would've been in trouble had it not been for the programming courses I did at University. If you honestly don't remember anything from Uni, Databases, Programming, basics of writing Reports etc, then that is truly sad.
aaronmac5 wrote: benevolent dictator wrote: aaronmac5 wrote: I'm out of college for 2 years now and I can safely say I remmember almost nothing from my 4 years in college. Sad how people think real life experience is worth less than having a degree (sometimes). You think you don't remember anything, but trust me, you do. I hadn't programmed in about 2 years, but I was given a project to do, and I would've been in trouble had it not been for the programming courses I did at University. If you honestly don't remember anything from Uni, Databases, Programming, basics of writing Reports etc, then that is truly sad. Well I don't because i never majored in comp sci ;P
certs vs degree?!?!?!?
Netaddict wrote: learningtofly22 wrote: Netaddict wrote: dynamik wrote: Do you have a link for their regional accreditation? That's the most important one to have (national is more for specialty schools, like flight school), and they do not list it on their accreditation page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/accreditation.jsp Also, check out this page: http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/approvals.jsp Some of those really don't look too good. Minnesota doesn't seem to take too well to them, which might be why I don't think they have a great reputation. Check your state on that list. You might want to look into Capella and/or WGU as well:http://www.capella.edu/about_capella/accreditation.aspxhttp://www.wgu.edu/about_WGU/accreditation.asp http://www.devry.edu/whydevry/75th_anniversary.jsp 1981, Like i said i want it all, i want my Certs and my degree with with some Internship while im in School. Yea i know its not cheap, but i have just about 54k (i put $1800 instead of $1200 for my GI bill) left in my GI Bill which expires may 22 2012, back in 2002 will attending CC it was $1038, direct deposit Rate for my $1500 for 36 Month Full time student.. Like i stated early, I want Certs, and internships while I'm in school, this was never a "Cert vs Degree" issue u cant go wrong with both in my opinion with some internship will in school to get some more Experience.. Welcome to the forums, DevilDog! One question, when did you get out of the Corps? I'm guessing around 2002 since your MGIB expires 2012. If you've served for 3 years after 9/11, or got out after 9/11 as a disabled vet, Pres. Bush just signed a SWEET upgrade to the MGIB. Even if you didn't serve a full 3 years after 9/11, you can still get a percentage of the benefits (40% for 90 days of active service after 9/11). Only downside is it doesn't start until Aug 2009, however, it does extend your MGIB expiration by 5 years as well. This drastically changes my college picture, that's for sure! I'll be applying to one of the "southern ivies" next year b/c of this, where I wouldn't have had a chance at affording it before. The new GI Bill pays up to 100% of the most expensive tuition in your state, PLUS $1000 a year for books, PLUS BAH for your zip code if you're in school full time(no distance learning though, but with BAH you can take a pay cut to go to school)!!!!! Take a look at this link, I really hope it applies to you too.http://www.gibill.va.gov/S22/Post_911_Factsheet.pdf Semper fi, even if you are a grimy devil dog, haha! V/R ET2(SW/MTS) Conner, USN 1999-2007 To Clear things up First my Plans are to Get My degree. While I'm getting my degree I'm going to get my Certs and look for some IT intern Positions while I'm attending school, I want be working either while I'm going to school. I cant go wrong with Having My Certs,Degree and Internship Prior to Graduating school, trying to use the Internship as some type of Experience to get my foot in the door..... And to learningtofly22 yea I got out may of 2002 from active duty and that 9/11 GIbill Does look nice I might add, i serve about 7month after 9/11 so that about 50% paid of the Max which is now Paid to the school and not Paid to u directly lol..
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