How much money can I get with A+,N+, MCSA, CCNA, & Secur

These are the certs Im planning to have after June or July with New Horizons Cyber Defenders Program! These accomplisments are only half of the program and Im not taking the second half of the program.
New Horizons has been a bad experience and not much help in achieving my certs! Basically it has been all self study and just using some resources of their but stuff I could of bought on my own with way cheaper than the $8000 paid for the classes and vouchers.
How much money can I get with A+, N+, MCSA, CCNA, and Security+???
New Horizons has been a bad experience and not much help in achieving my certs! Basically it has been all self study and just using some resources of their but stuff I could of bought on my own with way cheaper than the $8000 paid for the classes and vouchers.
How much money can I get with A+, N+, MCSA, CCNA, and Security+???
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I agree!!
Entry-level, maybe. Even with experience holding a certificate doesn't warrant someone a 'management' type position.
What is it you wish to do and or specialize in regarding 'IT'? Or more importantly, what do you enjoy with respect to computers that you wanted those specific certifications.
Plus, it depends upon how flooded your market (area) currently is with people who have years of experience and no certs.
Certifications are nice as a guide, but Personality and Experience will usually result in the best jobs. Networking (i.e. people networking) will also pay off long before holding a certificate.
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I got a masters degree in Computer Science as well
I was hoping to be an System Adminstrator at first and then work with Security.
Man, this is really sad news! what is the point of getting a MCSA and Cisco CCNA cert if they still give you entry level jobs positions just like an A+ and N+ cert!!
Not trying to disappoint you, but the reality is there are a LOT of very talented, very skilled people already in the market. There is always room for new blood, but no one starts at the top.
And with a CS degree, I'd inquire why you felt you needed certs too? The System Admins I know worked there way up from help desks.
Go and get a job, be enthusastic and prove yourself. Other option is to go into business for yourself. If your young or look young, be ready for people to not completely take you seriously until they see what you can do. You sound like you have a lot of training, just need to get you out there!
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***I'll add you can Capitalize the word 'I' to show a little respect for yourself too.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
I join the bandwagon because everybody was doing it! I wasnt very good at it when I graduated with my Bachelors and didnt took it seriously.
So to make up for lost time I decided to do my masters! I realize it was too late to catch up cause I wasnt advancing enough or had the skills level of Masters graduate
I hated programming anyway, but I fell in love with Networking! I love what I can do with computers and how they communicate!
That is why I want to go into how networks work and how to protect them cause I love them soo much! Thus going into Security!
I had big dreams of starting with a $45,000 job and up!
Im kinda bum big time right now! I have alot of loans to payback from college.
Thanks for your support though, I have to get that attitude.
I agree with that statement. Thats why I don't like all these "training companies" producing paper IT "experts". It has 2 major negative effects on the industry.
1. It completely devalues the certification process to the point where skilled and experienced people have qualifications on par with newbies to the industry.
2. It gives people entering the industry such as yourself false hopes that all this hard work, study and "training" will get you into a rewarding high paying job.
I agree with everyone when they say you need experience and unfortunately even though you laid out all that cash for an education you have start at the bottom of the ladder with a low paying job. Sorry that we had to break this news to you but its the same for everyone.
This has been the average for two year now according to the graduate job reports posted at my school.
I have 2 AAS degrees and this was the best job I could land. Just need to get some experience before getting the granddaddy job which I hope will happen to me in the next 5 years
I certainly don't like New Horizons or any type of Technical school like ITT Tech, etc. IMO they don't teach anything and don't have the so called professionals they claim to teach the class. I would rather go to a local Community College instead which is WAYYYY cheaper and get a better education. Good luck whatever you do.
my friend directed me to this webpage which pretty much confirm what you been saying all along
http://workit.leapit.com/news/newsarticle.ihtml?news_oid=1275
Keep in mind x_Danny_x, that it may not take you all that long to achieve your goals or even be a good way into being where you desire. People skills count for so, so much. Hang in there, and remember, its always easier to find a job when you have a job
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"Grammar and spelling aren't everything, but this is a forum, not a chat room. You have plenty of time to spell out the word "you", and look just a little bit smarter." by Phaideaux
***I'll add you can Capitalize the word 'I' to show a little respect for yourself too.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
certifications is not all about money..
they a couple of times talked about getting jobs around $60,000 with MCSA and CCNA and combine with other certs such as N+, A+ or a few Security certs!
Bastards, they got $8000 of my money!
yes they did..... but as everyone else has said get a job and get the experience
I am talking to a friend who is working in Georgia Tech and he is trying to hook me up! He is saying I could get a top position because of my masters in computer science topple with the certifications because the employer likes Certifications and wants to see it in the resume!
it is for some research and development team they have in Georgia Tech and it offers alot of money and I hope maybe they could pay for future certifications I might pursue cause I want to get into security!
Good luck with the position.
Mind posting a review of that in the Security section? I wouldn't mind hearing more.
x_Danny_x,
Everything that you can learn and understand will make you more valuable. Many times, it isn't so much about the ribbons and trophies as it is about true knowledge and reputation.
Value also comes down to basic economics Supply vs. Demand. If where you live or the places you are appling have a lot of talented people also applying for the job, the wages will be more competitvely balanced within similar jobs. If there isn't a large pool of candidates than they will pay better than average to attract the best - then the indivdual will need to prove they are the best.
When I was in college, I worked hard to graduate early and get out in the job market. A couple of my friends were 'scared' and decided to add another degree to their portfolio. By the time they finished school, I had three years experience on them, plus had the stigma of 'entry-level' well past me. When they finished school, they were facing entry-level work with a large debt to repay.
Trust what you think is right for you! Based on your past comments, I stand behind my comments of go get a job. If you want to gain more knowledge (i.e. certs in this case) go ahead, it isn't likely that it will push you further ahead though.
IMO - everyone here has posted execellent feedback - it is now yours to do
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"Grammar and spelling aren't everything, but this is a forum, not a chat room. You have plenty of time to spell out the word "you", and look just a little bit smarter." by Phaideaux
***I'll add you can Capitalize the word 'I' to show a little respect for yourself too.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
A job it is!!
I hope I will be able to land that job.
If only I knew how important experience is! I would of graduated with just a Bachelors and do what you did and hit the Certifications!
better late than never I say!
I guess I will continue on the certification path with MCSA, Cisco, and Security while trying to get a job!
After that I will get certified in the certs that I want to learn and do for the rest of my life!
Here I come world!
Keep us posted
Learning is forever, I still study as does the majority of this group. Ask JDMurray about what he is working on. Always room for more education. Once you hit the job market, education means something else. You may even find your classroom experience to become more valuable when you have job experience to back it up.
Keep a good attitude -you will make it!!
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"Grammar and spelling aren't everything, but this is a forum, not a chat room. You have plenty of time to spell out the word "you", and look just a little bit smarter." by Phaideaux
***I'll add you can Capitalize the word 'I' to show a little respect for yourself too.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
Thats exactly how it should be done. Very nice.
These certs will DEFINITELY help. Job requires no degree either.
ps: cost of living in delaware is low too. $42k is enough to buy a nice house and car for a single guy.
$42K is pretty good for a guy with a wife and a child or two. That is a very, very good wage.
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"Grammar and spelling aren't everything, but this is a forum, not a chat room. You have plenty of time to spell out the word "you", and look just a little bit smarter." by Phaideaux
***I'll add you can Capitalize the word 'I' to show a little respect for yourself too.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c'.... weird?
what about in New York City???