Cisco To Fire 10,000 People

Cisco To Fire 10,000 People
Wow, that's about all I can say. I dunno if this is 100% accurate, but if it is that's pretty crazy.

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onesaint

Turgon wrote: »

Again I disagree. I think it's still on the ramp up, everything I see in the industry and everything I hear from our recruiters in regards to demand validates this.

I think the ramp up is far from over. In fact, it may just be my awareness, but it seems thats it's only been in the last year or two that this has really begun to catch the public's attention. Thus, "acts of war" and such are being touted. In fact, I really think the understanding of the need for security for national interest is only in its infancy. That said, it is being bloated and a lot of the positions I scan over at the entry / intermediate level already seem to be more theoretical than technical. Why learn TCP/IP when you can just learn tools someone else has written.

zerglings

cxzar20 wrote: »

That certainly hasn't been my experience, TAC has really gone to hell in recent years. Perhaps it is the fact that their escalation and senior guys leave and aren't replaced. It will only get worse with this news. I have been told on numerous occasions that "we don't know". This isn't what I look for when paying for vendor support. The only way to get any real answers through TAC is to make a lot of noise with your account manager and hopefully you will get one of the few good TAC guys left.

Very true!

shodown wrote: »

I know people from India seem to be the big pointing finger, but the reality is that a lot of corps have already decided to close up shop and move to the PI, and other places that already have a basic understanding of the English language.

Expect to see more people from other countries filling the support role as India is on the verge of becoming to expensive to outsource too.

I keep in touch with friends and families in the Philippines and from what they've been telling me, it is already happening. India is slowly getting expensive for companies and the way they can still get income with this BPO (Business Process Outsourcing) is to outsource it to other countries like Singapore or Philippines, who charges less.

phoeneous wrote: »

I am!

Tisoy for life. Mabuhay!

Pare! Tapsilog tayo!

NOC-Ninja wrote: »

kabayan!

Kabayan, don't take this the wrong way... but... How come you didn't know what PI meant? I hear PI from bay area peeps all the time!

tpatt100

Story made it to CNN

Cisco to lay off 6,500 workers and sell Juarez plant - Jul. 18, 2011

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Cisco announced plans on Monday to lay off 9% of its workforce and to transfer another 7% of its staff to another company in a sale of one of its businesses.
The networking giant said it would hand out pink slips to 6,500 employees, including 2,100 who volunteered for early retirement packages.

DevilWAH

Seems its not just CISCO feeling the pinch...

Juniper catches 'Cisco flu' - The Times of India

NOC-Ninja

zerglings wrote: »

Very true!

I keep in touch with friends and families in the Philippines and from what they've been telling me, it is already happening. India is slowly getting expensive for companies and the way they can still get income with this BPO (Business Process Outsourcing) is to outsource it to other countries like Singapore or Philippines, who charges less.

Pare! Tapsilog tayo!

Kabayan, don't take this the wrong way... but... How come you didn't know what PI meant? I hear PI from bay area peeps all the time!

I know what it meant but I had to make sure. lol

Too bad they pay dirt cheap to those guys that work in IT. Some people that I know that used to work for Cisco moved to HP. I guess HP is paying them more.

CodeBlox

NOC-Ninja wrote: »

I know what it meant but I had to make sure. lol

Too bad they pay dirt cheap to those guys that work in IT. Some people that I know that used to work for Cisco moved to HP. I guess HP is paying them more.

I am a sub-contractor on an HP owned contract (NMCI) I am expecting to be employed by HP in about 6 months

I was shooting for Cisco but the opportunity is here, and now.

Claymoore

Forsaken_GA wrote: »

Juniper has a huge presence in the service provider world, especially when it comes to routing, but they're making inroads into the Enterprise market. The Enterprise is still Cisco's bread and better, but yeah, folks like Brocade and HP are not making it easy on them.

The end result is that we're likely to see prices on Cisco gear drop as well. At some point they're going to have to realize that large portions of their market have become commoditized, and the margins they expect are simply unrealistic. Not everyone can get away with being Apple.

It wouldn't surprise me to see prices on gear drop, but prices on the service contracts rise.

High margins invite competition. When that stops happening, capitalism and the western economies have failed. At that point it's time to stop stocking up on certs and start stocking up on guns, ammo, and seeds.

Most companies require quotes from multiple vendors for any significant project. As the feature sets of Juniper and ProCurve got closer to Cisco, it became harder to justify the price difference. Staff preference for a certain vendor - due to training, certifications and experience - may still overcome that price difference. However, at some point it is cheaper to send a couple engineers to JunOS training than buy Cisco equipment.