elearnsecurity course

jamesleecoleman

I've been looking at elearnsecurity for a while now because I would like to start learning about penetration testing and so I can get a better understanding of security. I was wondering if anyone has completed any course through this company recently? I'm thinking about starting with the beginner course just so that it will help me when I get into the professional level course. I signed up for a demo of the beginner course and I'll go over it when I get home.

the_Grinch

I have the professional level course, though I have not completed it. I liked it over all, you still should/need to do some research on your own, but the videos are pretty good and so are the slides. Definitely a good thing to complete if you plan to go for OSCP at some point.

jamesleecoleman

Thanks for the input the Grinch!!! I've been trying to watch your post on the course. I had read that you did not complete the course yet. I wanted to ask you if you had started back up but I was waiting for a little while to ask you about it.

I don't mind doing the research on my own. I've actually started to try to learn assembly and python. I think that learning some 'c' will help me too. I brought the Metasploit book and I started to read it. Its very helpful but I can't do some of the things because I think they wrote the book while in backtrack. I've also been following the CEH book because that's another certification I would like to get.

I had went over the syllabus for the beginner course and I found some stuff that I already knew about but other things that I've never heard of so I'm excited to start this course as soon as possible. I just gotta figure out whats up with VMware on my computers. My computer is going crazy and it won't let me install VMware or Virtual Box.

Do you have any plan on starting the course back up soon?

the_Grinch

Yeah at some point I will start back up again and take the exam. Sorting out some life stuff first though

lister

Sorry to interrupt but is this considered as a kinda beginners course - the elearnSecurity course?

the_Grinch

They offer a beginner's course, so if you feel like you're a total beginner I'd take that first. This course I would say is a midlevel course, not quite OSCP, but definitely beyond CEH. If I were to order it

Security+
CEH
eLearnSecurity eCPPT
OSCP

jamesleecoleman

lister wrote: »

Sorry to interrupt but is this considered as a kinda beginners course - the elearnSecurity course?

This is the link to the course.

Penetration testing course Student

jamesleecoleman

So I went over half of the demo for the course and it's alright. Its different from being in class and the teacher doing the slideshows. The only problem is that from the demo, I would have to have two monitors. One to view the video and the other to follow along. I'll go over the over half later on.

YuckTheFankees

jamesleecoleman wrote: »

So I went over half of the demo for the course and it's alright. Its different from being in class and the teacher doing the slideshows. The only problem is that from the demo, I would have to have two monitors. One to view the video and the other to follow along. I'll go over the over half later on.

I bought a 2nd monitor after I started studying for security/pentesting/forensics/malware...I'm debating about getting a third monitor.

Monitor #1: video
Monitor#2: microsoft word for notes
Monitor #3: command line, programs..etc

It's definitely a good investment.

cyberguypr

YuckTheFankees wrote: »

I bought a 2nd monitor after I started studying for security/pentesting/forensics/malware...I'm debating about getting a third monitor.

Monitor #1: video
Monitor#2: microsoft word for notes
Monitor #3: command line, programs..etc

It's definitely a good investment.

What size are your monitors? I have two 20 inchers that I use comfortably with everything you mentioned (except OneNote instead of word).

YuckTheFankees

My laptop is 17" and my 2nd monitor is 23".

YuckTheFankees

I know eCPPT would be a good transition into OSCP but is spending the 600 for eCPPT worth it, if you're going to take OSCP right after it?

the_Grinch

There will be advantages and disadvantages, a big one is having to write a report. Nice to have one under your belt if you aren't doing pen testing for a living. Also, if you are lacking in some skill areas, it will nice to get a review of material from an alternative source. $600 is a lot and if you believe you have the needed skills you can bypass eCPPT.

jamesleecoleman

the_Grinch wrote: »

There will be advantages and disadvantages, a big one is having to write a report. Nice to have one under your belt if you aren't doing pen testing for a living. Also, if you are lacking in some skill areas, it will nice to get a review of material from an alternative source. $600 is a lot and if you believe you have the needed skills you can bypass eCPPT.

Do you think I would have trouble writing the report if I've written technical documents? I also had to write a report on securing an unpatched operating system and breaking into one for class. Would that be helpful too? I had to write detailed steps for each document that I wrote but I'm not sure how much detail is needed for the eCPPT.

the_Grinch

I wouldn't be able to tell you what would be required for the report portion as I haven't completed the cert. If you wrote a report like you stated for a college level course with a qualified professor (with experience in the field) then yes you'd probably be alright to skip and go to OSCP (at least in regards to the reporting part). You'll know best what you are prepared for and there have been a few post with people listing their experiences and what they felt would be best to know prior to starting the class. Review those, see where you stand, and decide if you can dedicate the time to cover the topics you are weak on, on top of the normal work related tasks and task required of the class. Good luck!

jamesleecoleman

the_Grinch wrote: »

I wouldn't be able to tell you what would be required for the report portion as I haven't completed the cert. If you wrote a report like you stated for a college level course with a qualified professor (with experience in the field) then yes you'd probably be alright to skip and go to OSCP (at least in regards to the reporting part). You'll know best what you are prepared for and there have been a few post with people listing their experiences and what they felt would be best to know prior to starting the class. Review those, see where you stand, and decide if you can dedicate the time to cover the topics you are weak on, on top of the normal work related tasks and task required of the class. Good luck!

Thanks!!! I forgot that you were still working on the course. I did go through some posts about this course and it's still pretty difficult to decide on which could I want to do but its more important what course I should be doing. I think that the beginner course should be done unless I study the syllabus that they have and I study more CEH material. Then I might just move on to the professional course.

the_Grinch

I tend to think the beginner course is for real beginners. I think most people could go the Professional route and then fill any gaps they have with online resources.

SephStorm

I would consider the student class mainly because I think it gives programming basics.

jamesleecoleman

the_Grinch wrote: »

I tend to think the beginner course is for real beginners. I think most people could go the Professional route and then fill any gaps they have with online resources.

I was thinking about filling in the gaps but I don't know how much that would put me behind.

jamesleecoleman

SephStorm wrote: »

I would consider the student class mainly because I think it gives programming basics.

I didn't see programming basics in the syllabus.

jamesleecoleman

Now they just updated their professional course!!!

SephStorm

Huh. Maybe I was confused with Heorot's certs. Anyway, it looks good!

jamesleecoleman

The price also went up for the professional course but it still looks good though.

YuckTheFankees

V2 looks pretty good and I'm glad updating the course was a priority for them.

jamesleecoleman

YuckTheFankees wrote: »

V2 looks pretty good and I'm glad updating the course was a priority for them.

Yea but the price went up too! I'm just glad that it's not $1000 and I (and others) can still afford to do the course.

the_Grinch

Yeah they sent me the email, but made me mad that if you buy the updated course material the exam isn't included (or at least discounted). But might still buy it and knock this one out...especially since you get lab time!