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What is the best basic job for working in IT with no experience or credentials.

TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
I know thia sounds like a stypid question...because it is.


I wont go into the details, but I am in a very complex situation work wise. I passed the 901, and I think I could pass the 902. However, I am broke and need a job asap to sit for any further IT test. I was thinking something at comcast or dish network might benefit me more than a job at say the movie theator? I plan on getting certs.I just have no money to sit for them, and I need a job. Would the job I select make a difference at this point?



I'm 30 btw...if that helps.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Sorry for my improper use of the English langauge. I'm extremly stresaed( financially) right now.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Yes, I have procasited getting a career in IT too long. Yes, I am willing to bust my ass now,
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    DatabaseHeadDatabaseHead Member Posts: 2,753 ■■■■■■■■■■
    Desktop Support maybe work a PC refresh project........ Mention 901 on your resume and get to applying.
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    BerkshireHerdBerkshireHerd Member Posts: 185
    You start where a majority of professionals start. At the support level whether it is help desk or desktop support. Could also be racking and stacking or pulling cables at a DC.
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    EANxEANx Member Posts: 1,077 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Most people start at or near the bottom and work their way up. If you're lucky, you'll get a job with a small company doing everything IT related but most people get a job on a help-desk or desktop support visiting users directly..
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    So, wouod dish network qualify as entey level work? I'm in Denver, colorado. What would be some good places to apply for entty level work?
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    At this point, ill work in IT for minimum wage. Its all I'm qaulified for atm anyway so.....
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    yoba222yoba222 Member Posts: 1,237 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Just looked through that list. Send a resume to all of them, or at least the first 20-30 of them. Keep track of who you applied to and when on a spreadsheet. Save a copy of each resume version that you apply with separately so you can refer back if one of them contacts you. Some ads mention experienced preferred, but not mandatory. And even if it says mandatory, apply anyway. Anything can be negotiable if they need somebody.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Thats a good idea. Thanks for your input!
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    QueueQueue Member Posts: 174 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Like everyone has mentioned you'll be considered for roles where you're doing deployments, password resets/re-assign tickets on late shift, possible desktop support (printers, patching cables, HDD swaps,etc.)

    If you're making very little money you may qualify for government grants/state grants. You may even have a bootcamp program at a nearby Community College/Tech School that would be free given your income. I would also look into this while you look for your job. You tie the two together and you could move up quickly.
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    EANxEANx Member Posts: 1,077 ■■■■■■■■□□
    I've seen plenty of jobs where the requirements includes something impossible. 7 years experience with Windows 2000 server in 2002. Companies are often unrealistic. Apply, see what happens.
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    DatabaseHeadDatabaseHead Member Posts: 2,753 ■■■■■■■■■■
    Working the NOC at Dish doesn't sound too bad at all!
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    jcundiffjcundiff Member Posts: 486 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Apply for everything help desk or desktop support in Denver... Its a tech town, should be plenty of gigs open. Yeah requirements are really "In our wildest dream" statements... don't let them deter you. mention that you have passed the 901 in your cover letter.
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    NetworkingStudentNetworkingStudent Member Posts: 1,407 ■■■■■■■■□□
    I see you're in CO..

    Have you tried Microcenter?

    https://re22.ultipro.com/MIC1003/jobboard/JobDetails.aspx?__ID=*5E32581FCB9886E2
    MAJOR RESPONSIBILITIES:

    Provide technical explanations, do problem analysis and recommend solutions to walk-in customers through consultative solution selling; build repeat business through customer satisfaction
    Maintain a cash till in order to assist or check in customer equipment for service repair or upgrades
    Provide technical support to Micro Center customers via telephone at manager request
    Communicate to Home Office I.T. on store system maintenance (POS, phones, etc.) and general technical problems
    Provide weekly reporting updates to Home Office on issues relevant to the department, such as efficiency, product handling, support and customer satisfaction
    Provide input on Retail Sales Associate training programs and present In-Store Customer Clinics; provide support to store associates as needed
    Support store operations by ensuring a clean work area, maintaining loss prevention awareness, performing merchandising duties and participating in open and close procedures
    Perform other duties and tasks as assigned

    Requisition Number 17-9113
    Post Date 7/26/2017
    Title RETAIL TECHNICAL SUPPORT SPECIALIST
    City DENVER
    State CO
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    Cisco InfernoCisco Inferno Member Posts: 1,034 ■■■■■■□□□□
    first step to a job in denver. quit smoking.



    once you have that down, apply to everything. And tailor each resume to each position. Also include a cover letter as it shows who you are and says things your resume doesnt.

    You are lucky to be in Denver. I actually moved here for for the better job market. Ranks top5 consistently in IT jobs/cost of living/income.
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    thomas_thomas_ Member Posts: 1,012 ■■■■■■■■□□
    If you need money, then I would say the highest paying job you can find the quickest. Having any job, even if it's not related to IT is better than no job because it shows that you at least have a job.

    I would, however, keep applying to jobs if the first job you accept and get hired on isn't related to IT. I would also continue to study for certs while working that non-it related job. Once you get hired in an IT position learn everything you can continue to get relevant certs for the experience you are gaining and the next job position you would like to have. It would be great if those two things lined up, but if not you have to make a decision of what will benefit you the most in your situation. I believe there are a few military bases on the front range, so it could be beneficial to you to get Security+ at some point which might open up some doors.
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    Fulcrum45Fulcrum45 Member Posts: 621 ■■■■■□□□□□
    And don't feel bad breaking into IT so late. I also didn't get in till I was 30. Some of us needed a bit more time to find a career that fit.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Queue wrote: »
    Like everyone has mentioned you'll be considered for roles where you're doing deployments, password resets/re-assign tickets on late shift, possible desktop support (printers, patching cables, HDD swaps,etc.)

    If you're making very little money you may qualify for government grants/state grants. You may even have a bootcamp program at a nearby Community College/Tech School that would be free given your income. I would also look into this while you look for your job. You tie the two together and you could move up quickly.


    This is probably the best advice I have gotten in this thread. I appreciate everyone's help. However, this bit of advice led me to research this:

    Arapahoe/Douglas Works!.

    It's one of the best workforce type centers in the country.


    They have a crapload of classes for me to attend for career development. However, That's only icing on the cake. I called them. I called them up. They have all sorts of recruiters come to their office on a monthly basis for IT. They said IT is a big thing they recruit for. So, it's a great way to network and get into IT.



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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    thomas_ wrote: »
    If you need money, then I would say the highest paying job you can find the quickest. Having any job, even if it's not related to IT is better than no job because it shows that you at least have a job.

    I would, however, keep applying to jobs if the first job you accept and get hired on isn't related to IT. I would also continue to study for certs while working that non-it related job. Once you get hired in an IT position learn everything you can continue to get relevant certs for the experience you are gaining and the next job position you would like to have. It would be great if those two things lined up, but if not you have to make a decision of what will benefit you the most in your situation. I believe there are a few military bases on the front range, so it could be beneficial to you to get Security+ at some point which might open up some doors.


    I don't need money...but i will eventually. My parents are providing me with the essentials atm(food,shelter, public transportation). However, I feel really crappy even asking my parents for this kind of help.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    first step to a job in denver. quit smoking.



    once you have that down, apply to everything. And tailor each resume to each position. Also include a cover letter as it shows who you are and says things your resume doesnt.

    You are lucky to be in Denver. I actually moved here for for the better job market. Ranks top5 consistently in IT jobs/cost of living/income.



    I don't smoke tabacco or weed. So, I have that down:D.


    I will use the workforce resources I listed to help me create a resume/cover letter.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    I see you're in CO..

    Have you tried Microcenter?

    https://re22.ultipro.com/MIC1003/jobboard/JobDetails.aspx?__ID=*5E32581FCB9886E2
    MAJOR RESPONSIBILITIES:

    Provide technical explanations, do problem analysis and recommend solutions to walk-in customers through consultative solution selling; build repeat business through customer satisfaction
    Maintain a cash till in order to assist or check in customer equipment for service repair or upgrades
    Provide technical support to Micro Center customers via telephone at manager request
    Communicate to Home Office I.T. on store system maintenance (POS, phones, etc.) and general technical problems
    Provide weekly reporting updates to Home Office on issues relevant to the department, such as efficiency, product handling, support and customer satisfaction
    Provide input on Retail Sales Associate training programs and present In-Store Customer Clinics; provide support to store associates as needed
    Support store operations by ensuring a clean work area, maintaining loss prevention awareness, performing merchandising duties and participating in open and close procedures
    Perform other duties and tasks as assigned

    Requisition Number 17-9113
    Post Date 7/26/2017
    Title RETAIL TECHNICAL SUPPORT SPECIALIST
    City DENVER
    State CO


    I think a entry level phone based job(Help desk) would be much better for me given that I technically still have aspergers(I need to be re-diagnosed). The techs at Microcenter are face to face based. I'm not sure this would be a good idea. I am still pretty awkward.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Working the NOC at Dish doesn't sound too bad at all!


    Except it isnt a NOC based role. I am not sure it's even an IT role:

    Customer service careers at DISH – Littleton, CO | DISH Careers
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    EANxEANx Member Posts: 1,077 ■■■■■■■■□□
    "Meet or exceed minimum performance standards including but not limited to Average Handle Time; Customer Satisfaction; Quality, Up-selling, etc. You will be constantly measured on these metrics "

    It's a call-center job, not a NOC position. It would be the odd NOC engineer who was measured on his ability to up-sell.
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    EANx wrote: »
    "Meet or exceed minimum performance standards including but not limited to Average Handle Time; Customer Satisfaction; Quality, Up-selling, etc. You will be constantly measured on these metrics "

    It's a call-center job, not a NOC position. It would be the odd NOC engineer who was measured on his ability to up-sell.


    Exactly. I was learning more towards actual Tier 1 Help Desk positions.
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    DatabaseHeadDatabaseHead Member Posts: 2,753 ■■■■■■■■■■
    Here is a dish position
    JK :)
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    DatabaseHeadDatabaseHead Member Posts: 2,753 ■■■■■■■■■■
    EANx wrote: »

    It would be the odd NOC engineer who was measured on his ability to up-sell.

    That would be a sales or pre sales engineer....... ;)
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    TheNullVoidTheNullVoid Banned Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Here is a dish position
    JK :)


    Everyone knows the "dish" ran away with the spoon.
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    LordQarlynLordQarlyn Member Posts: 693 ■■■■■■□□□□
    Don't feel so worried, I didn't break into IT until I was 40. Before that I was in telecommunications, satellite and RF predominantly, and I leveraged my experience from those positions to get into IT and to bypass the entry-level jobs to start just above them. Yes, certifications are a must and any IT job you can get your foot in the door is a good start.
    On top of the excellent advice given here, I would go over your past work experience and do likewise, leverage and spin it for IT jobs. Worked a lot with customers? Put in your cover letter as a strength for dealing with IT users. Fixed stuff? Showcase that as having good problem solving and troubleshooting skills. You get the idea.

    Good luck and always be persistent.
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    ITSpectreITSpectre Member Posts: 1,040 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Start at the Help Desk.... Desktop support, or Field Support. Then you start to get Certs. A+, Net+, and Sec+ is the trio. Then you will have the knowledge you need to be a sith in the empire!!!! And one day with enough certs and expierience You will be a Darth Lord on the Dark council...
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