What is the hardest topic to study for CCNA?

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Here's a poll mainly to see on which topics we should focus in our practice exams and TechNotes. The options correspond pretty much with the exam objectives.
Johan
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On account of the results in the poll I will try hard to write something really good and useful for our upcoming WAN TechNotes
is subnetting is a part of ccna paper
can any one have the outline for the paper ..
mishal
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I find all that novell/ipx/token-ring stuff does not fit in to any pattern
successor route.. feasible successor route.. hop count hop distance administrative distance cost delay bandwidth speed link speed areas blah ARG!!
my advice, don't do eigrp right after you study ospf. my mind is exploding!
yeah, i think that has to be the most annoying ( but not hardest ) part of the CCNA to understand. took me forever to get it.. and hrm, i think ive forgotton by now. but.. i dont see why its not up there, :P
I have to agree with Hawaiian. I was having minor problems with WAN Technologies, but it's now starting to sink in. It would be nice to see some material here on subnetting.
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Subnetting for me was easy to learn, if you convert the IP to binary and go from there it is really not that hard. I wrote a great paper on it last year and I could send it to anyone who needs some extra help.
As far as the other topic is concerned, I agree that the WAN technolgies are the hardest to get down. ISDN with all the A, TA NT etc........Frame with all the LMI, DLCI, PVC etc. I am really stressed with how much time to put forth in my studies of WAN technolgies for this CCNA exam.
As for subneting - subneting isn't difficult once you get it. But for the test you have to be quick. I think that if you are at the point were it doesn't come automatically (you should be able to do it in your head) you are going to run into trouble on the test time wise.
Im in a Cisco academy class atm taking the final chapter tests in 2 days.
with Class A. I get so frustrated from having read Todd's explanation on
subnetting Class A for the 10th time and still not getting it. Drives me to drink.