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publishing comptia certs to microsoft
Hi This may be a silly question, but I have no idea how to publish my comptia certs to microsoft. I've tried sending comptia emails but they dont give me any answers. I've browsed through the "your certifications" area but if its there, I cant seem to find it :) Any help would be appreciated.
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NSA IAM/IEM Certification Thoughts
I currently hold most of the 'common' infosec certifications, and now I am looking for a new challenge. I have found a cert called the NSA IAM/IEM. It appears that a candidate must take a live class for this cert, and I cannot seem to find a way around the live class requirement (?) Does anyone have any information on this…
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[PLEASE HELP] setting up home server network
I need help setting up my home server network I will try to be very detailed as to what i want to do # ROUTER STATUS # Here is what my home router status shows NOTE: The exact IP is changed for security reasons Internet Port MAC Address 84:1B:5E:CA:53:BD IP Address 76.81.236.171 DHCP DHCPClient IP Subnet Mask 255.255.248.0…
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Advice on How to Break Into Management in InfoSec?
Friends, I have been viewing this excellent forum for years but now decided to post. I have been in IT Security for 10+ years, I have half-dozen of the "common" information security certifications, including the CISM (Security Manager) and PMP (Project Manager), and the rest are technical certifications. I do have an…
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uCertify books from Amazon
Hi what do you think about uCertify books from Amazon? uCertify has guides for many certifications.
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CompTIA to get Harder
CompTIA's Top Tests Get More Challenging
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Props to the team at SelfTestSoftware
I attempted to order 30 day access for a set of exams last night, but there was a glitch in the transaction that left me with a $69.00 hold on my card and no exams. I submitted a trouble ticket, and got an auto-response that they would contact me during their normal business hours. Long story short, they called me this…
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Career Path, Certs, Training (Basic Questions)
Hi, I am brand new to the forums and am so thankful I found this resource. I am looking for direction on career paths, certifications, and training approaches. A bit about me. I was recently laid off from my position of 16 years (basically deskside PC support) in a corporate environment. I have an A+ certification from…
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[VIDEO] Rooting A Box (Local Command Execution)
While surfing the internet, I found this interesting video showing how to gain root priviledges using command execution: Rooting A Box (Local Command Execution) - YouTube
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Hmm.. where to next? CCENT or Linux+?
Hi all, I currently hold a CompTIA Sec+ and are sitting my Net+ within the next 2 days. I would eventually like to get into IT Security (and sit my OSCP, CEH etc. exams). I am wondering which cert would be the next step? I am contemplating over CCENT or Linux+ Appreciate advice and opinions!
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CISCO or LINUX ???
Hello everybody. I am an IT employee. I have 2 question for you ?? 1) What is the current trend in IT sector, CISCO (ccna.ccnp etc) or LINUX ( RHCSA , RHCE , etc ) meaning which one is better and easy to find a job. 2) Which is easy for learning CISCO (ccna.ccnp etc) or UNIX ( RHCSA , RHCE , etc ) because i am little lazy…
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Does VoIP Get More Interesting??
My CCNP is going to expire in about a year, so I'm looking at what to do next. I figured I take a look at VoIP, and started out with CCNA Voice, but holy crap, I got bored out of my mind. For those of you with a CCNP Voice, does the voice track get more interesting once you're past the CCNA Voice level, or is it pretty…
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hack.me -web vuln website for educational or research purposes
This is by the company that I'm doing my pentest course through. Hack.me is a FREE, community based project powered by eLearnSecurity. The community can build, host and share vulnerable web application code for educational and research purposes. It aims to be the largest collection of "runnable" vulnerable web…
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Comptia + Security , Networking Book
Hi, can you please link me the latest books for Comptia+ , Comtpia Security and Comptia Networking in order to study them and pass the exams
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BCNE training this week
Since the only Brocade certifications on this site are on the storage side, I will open this thready in "General". I will be attending the BCNE (Brocade Certified Network Professional) training course at Brocade's campus in Broomfield CO. This is my first cert in a while and I hope I still have the chops for it. It will be…
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Anyone run across Cretificate of Cloud Security Knowledge? Worthwhile?
Found this mentioned in an article on Networkworld.com and supposedly this cert holds a little bit of weight even though it is entry level. $295.00 to test, online, and with one free re-take. Looks like all the study material is available free from the site as well. Offered by Cloud Security Alliance…
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Prometric
When did Prometric start charging a fee to cancel or reschedule an exam?
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Passed CWNA!
Got the 105 today. What a relief. It was tough! Breezed through the first half but the second got progressively harder (as did my heart rate.)
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RHCSA vs. RHCE
I've been a Linux SA for 2 years and have been using Linux since I loaded it off recycled AOL floppies back in like 1995. That said, the bulk of my SA experience was in a Windows/AD environment before my current position. I've built Hadoop clusters and dozens and dozens of VMs, I've applied security standards and gone…
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CIPP/C or CIPP/IT ?
Hi guys, Currently studying CIPP foudation and planning to get it out of my way soon. What to go for next...CIPP/C (I live in Canada) or CIPP/IT? It makes more sense for me to go for CIPP/IT but I got to think...Don't concepts from CIPP/IT overlap with sec concepts that we already know or are somewhat familiar with from…
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Microsoft starter
What's a good Microsoft certification to start out with? I am about to take the ICND1, and while I do plan to take the ICND2, I think I'm going to need an actual computing certification as well. Which one would a novice have the easiest time obtaining?
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Online training providers; Requesting input
Hi hi hi, Looking for input on IT training other than CBT Nuggets. That's my personal favorite, but I'm looking for other options, free or paid. Our annual IT Retreat is scheduled for later this month, and the agenda just got posted today. One of the line items is essentially "professional development", so I figured this…
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Upcoming Security Texts
Figured I'd post this, some good stuff in the pipe line. Metasploit Penetration Testing Cookbook | Packt Publishing Advanced Penetration Testing for Highly-Secured Environments: The Ultimate Security Guide | Packt Publishing BackTrack 5 Cookbook | Packt Publishing
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Proof of purchase?
I purchased my first exam through Pearson Vue a couple of days ago? It does not indicate on the receipt what type of proof of purchase is needed (if any) at the testing center. There is a shipping address on the receipt, though. Will they mail a voucher or do I simply take a copy of the receipt with me?
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Has anyone else had a problem logging into testout labsim
for the first time? I just paid for it and tried to log on, it does not seem to be working. Thanks
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3 best free certificates
nice article free certificates :) 3 The Best FREE Online Courses with Certificates
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Pass CCA Xenapp 6.5 Exam
Passed this on Friday last week. My next exam is for the CCAA in Xenapp 6.5. I am HOPING to have my CCEE by the end of this year..
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Android Application Engineer Certifications Basic [OA0-002]
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Security Certificate
Hello, I was wondering if someone can suggest some security courses. I have no certificate only high school degree in IT. I was thinking to try something between CEH and OSCP. The main point is, I would like to use the certificate in order to find easier a job into it security environment. I have general knowledge about…
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ComptTIA Performance based testing.
Here is an article written by Darril Gibson talking about how performance based testing will be implemented into new test. InfoSec Resources – CompTIA Performance Based Testing
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Renewed GCIH, going for GPEN, what next?
Hey guys, So I recently renewed my GCIH on my own dime and found out more about my company's tuition assistance after the fact. So I'm signed up for the GPEN course coming up. I'll have used up most of the tuition budget ($5000+) on the GPEN for this year 2012. I'm wondering if I should just focus on that to close out the…
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Question about learning new technologies (70-640)
Hi Guys, I was wondering - with the companies that you work in, is it better to be the "only one" that can do something or do learn things that other technicians are already certified in? I know it may sound silly, but it also depends on what your company can do i guess. Also does anyone have any tips out the 70-640 exam?…
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How to start a carreer in IS Security
So I've looked on-line. Called universities. Asked those in the field. I've read the blogs. It seems impossible to figure out how to get into the security world in information systems. No one seems to know the exact path to become a IT security person. There is no "step by step" process that I can find. It seems the only…
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hi, any huawei certified here?
hi, since there is no separate session for Huawei certifications here, i'll jus hav to ask here... huawei is becoming a big trend ;) is there any huawei certified on this forum? i'd like to ask some help. i don't know where to buy their HCDA Book....or can u please share the link somewhere i can download ? Thanks! :)
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Pentest skills assessmenst at Exploitable Labs
I was just listening to episode #254 of the Risky Business podcast and heard its interview with the owner of Exploitable Labs. EL offers a service to assess people's Web and network penetration testing and report writing skills using 24-, 48-, and 72-hour online pentesting labs. It's not a certification like the OSCP or…
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Security traning courses
Hi everyone, Our manager is entertaining the idea of sending some of us into security training and asked me for suggestions of what's available out there besides the famous SANS courses. Target audience: seasoned sysadmins Format: online, bootcamp, or corporate on-site Study goals: defensive side, security-focused approach…
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Started certification exam.... (eCPPT)
I started the certification process for the eCPPT (eLearnSecurity - Worldwide IT Security training provider) I downloaded the ISO of BT4. It was broken up in 16 .rar files. I had a little trouble downloading the file because of the connection. Well I installed the ISO into vmware and then I read the instructions on how to…
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Most affordable Computer Forensics course and credential?
There is CCE, CFCS,EnCase and others, what is least cost certification/training related to Computer Forensics, thanks.
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Reccommended paid training?
Our CIO told us to let him know if there's any classes that we want to take or any sort of paid training we would like to get because he's getting ready to submit a budget. I'm looking to take advantage of this and I want to use this to get more security training. Now, I'll be getting my Security+ cert in the next couple…
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Webmaster certification
Hi guys, I have a web marketing background and would like to extend it to become a webmaster or web administrator. I have seen job postings that require a webmaster certification from a recognized institution. Do you know what that would be? I have heard about the CIW certification for example. But what would be best for…
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Best place to begin with certifications
i am new to this forum and to IT field too could anyone say the best certification path to top up my career
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Wireshark Certified Network Analyst
Is it possbile to do the exam if you are based in the UK looked on the exam website and looked like all the locations where US.
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Passed Cisco Data Centre Specialist Exam (DCUCD)
Passed the UCS / DC specialist exam with 898. Been working on Nexus and UCS designs for about 18 months, so mainly on the job knowledge and training videos from Cisco PEC. It's the first specialist cert I've got, but after doing the exam the constant checking of ucs b-series and c-series form factors and additional parts…
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Good article about the difference between Engagement Mgmt and Project Mgmt
Engagement Management vs. Project Management | Project Management Tips || Project Management, Collaboration and Knowledge Management Blog It's a bit dated but the principals remain the same. I have to admit that project delivery is fun, but the larger scope and responsibility that comes along with the engagement manager…
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Linux or Unix? Which is easier?
Summary of my Linux knowledge/experience: Five months ago I've installed Linux Mint 12 onto a partition on my home PC and sucessfully connected it to the wireless network .......haven't touched it since Summary of my Unix knowledge/experience: It was developed in the 1960s..........it has something to do with Linux (I…
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Certification guidance?
I am looking for advice on what certifications to pursue next but first let me give you my experience etc. A+, SEC+, CCNA, and CCNP. I am 22 years old and I am preparing myself to get out of the army in 18 months from now. I currently have 4 years experience working in networking from basic tech to my currently role as a…
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Are Adtran and Calix certifications worth pursuing?
Hi, I recently found out about Calix and Adtran's certifications. I work with Adtran 1100/1200F, 1248/v, 3000, and 5000s everyday, as well as Calix's E5 and E7s. Does anyone have experience with Calix and Adtran's certs? Should I pursue their certs, or just focus on Cisco's exam right now? All advice and input is welcome!!…
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Any Value of LPIC ?
Is there any value of having LPIC certification ? It seems to be that it has very little 'brand value' and most of the time the prospective employers are not even aware of any such thing as LPIC and there is never a job ad which states LPIC certification as a Plus point so it is worth doing ? I have done LPIC 1 and LPIC…
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CompTIA CE... ???
Hi guys, I'm trying to wrap my head around the CompTIA CE requirement. From my understanding I need 50 CEUs before my three years are up, but from my understanding I have to partake in activities or memberships in order to stay certified. Seems a lot for these certs, especially considering that CompTIA seems to be looked…
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Confused on Certifications
Hello, (for those who dont know me) I've been working in IT now for almost 8 years and started off in Desktop Support/Helpdesk - moved into the NOC at an ISP and proceeded into Managed Services (Cisco, Telecom) so I've gained lots of experience in ISP networks and installing Cisco gear. I am CCNA/CCNA Voice and ADTRAN…
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Differences between Microsoft and Cisco certs
I just got my network+ cert and I'm already thinking about what's next. Would it be a better idea to just finish the last comptia cert (security+) or should I move on to other certifications? I'm thinking of the MCP or [FONT=arial, sans-serif]CCENT as next steps. Again though my question would be: should get Security +…
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Hi hello everybody
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Certifications Advice - Business Risk Managment
Dear all, I've a Master Degree in Information Engineering (I live in Rome,Italy) and I've started to work as Security Consultant for Hewlett Packard. I'm really interested in the field of business risk managment (with a deep "inquisitiveness" for financial aspect). Now I've to decide a Certification Program, my boss…
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Getting certifications and degrees
Whenever I tell people that I plan on getting my Network+ and Security+ certifications within the spring/summer, I always get this look 0_o or . and they tell me those are not going to benefit me much and to only go after the CISSP because apparently that's the only thing that matters in life (sarcasm), Just wanted to know…
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Problem with exploiting a Linux box
Hello all, I am looking for a little help with a problem. I am working on breaking into and owning a linux box. It is Red Hat 2.4.20-8 and has multiple open ports and numerous vulnerabilities. The problem I have run into is getting root access. I can log in via SSH or FTP and have user priv but I can't seem to jump the…
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Help in deciding which certification to pursue!!!!
Hello All, I am an current Information Security and Assurance student with a couple of years until I graduate, I currently do not have any IT certifications and I am looking to get any certification that will be beneficial for my career. With that being said, I wanted to know if you all could give me some advice on which…
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Which CCA Exam?
Hello, Is there a specific entry level CCA exam to take for those new to Citrix? I see exams for XenApp, XenDesktop, NetScaler, Provisioning Server, etc... I'm going to be part of a rollout that incorporates all of these, and need to be CCA certified and I'm not sure which one to focus on. Thanks!
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Proper Order To Present Certifications
Hello Everyone, I only have one current certification but noticed those of you who have multiple certifications. What is the proper order (if any) to present your certifications or does it really matter at all? : i.e. Lowest to highest, highest to lowest, by area of expertise Just wondering... One Cert Wonder
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Certification hierarchy
This may be a stupid question, but I'm curious. I have seen posts on here periodically that mention a particular certification as a low/beginning level and another as a mid or higher level certification. I understand that within one provider that certifications are ranked, i.e. CCENT -> CCNA -> CCNP, etc. Single provider…
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Oracle Database SQL Expert Exam 1Z0-047
To anyone who took or is pursuing the 1Z0-047 exam, how difficult would you gauge the exam/study process? I do not intend to take the administration exam to get my OCA, just the sql expert exam. Re: my background/education, I do not have a computer science degree (I have a degree in accounting and am an auditor), but am…
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Career Path certifications
Dear all I am currently student of telecom engineering BS-(ETE) and in present I am in second semester and hopes full to complete this in 2015 with specialization in network programming now my question is that what you are all preferred me what to do ... I am basically very interested in Networking, System side and wants…
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Good packet analysis pdf
Hello, I am looking for some good books/pdfs about packet analysising what would you guys recommend? Thanks,
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A Confused 32yr Old
Hello Good People, I'm a 32yr old and im at a cross roads in my life where i think i need to go into IT, ive always been interested computers etc. since i first got my own pc at the age of 15. I completed a Comptia A+ course a couple of years ago and the tutor on the course briefly touched on a few other subjects like…
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I'm getting more confused about which security path to take as the days go on
Dating back to last April..I decided I wanted to pursue pentesting (real original, right?). Fast forward to September, I started my 1st job in I.T. (NOC/Linux support)...and 2 months ago I started my 2nd I.T job...still in NOC but I'm dealing with a lot more networking task and plus there's a lot of room to grow at the new…
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Value of ISECOM certifications
Just wondering if anyone knows about the value (perceived or otherwise) of ISECOM certifications. I like the OSSTMM, but it doesn't seem like there are a lot of organizations searching for people with experience using the OSSTMM. I've only found a few references to it on Dice, so I was wondering if anyone has had a…
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skillsoft
How is the skillsoft material? Looks like I have access to the whole library through work. Mostly interested in Windows 2008, CISSP, and some CompTIA stuff.
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Rusty and needing guidance or what to do where to go.
Okay, here's my story. I've worked as a telecom tech for the past several years, basically all I do is pull cable, splice, punch down, mount and connect routers occasionally load a config file and troubleshoot wiring problems. I feel like I'm not learning anything that can keep me marketable in case I would want or need to…
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PMP requirements
I'm relatively young (30). I've been a Lead Programmer analyst for 2 years for the state and a principal software engineer for 1.5 years with a federal contractor. I'm concerned that I don't fall under the required hours for applying for the exam. I have developed and designed systems and tracked those projects during my…
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Career certification advice for me
hi guys, in the future I want to work as a network engineer(or anything related to networking). I don't have any certs yet but this is what I'm planning to take •CompTia A+ (I have very minimal knowledge about hardware and software) •CCNA (i'm currently taking up ccna exploration at our university) •CCNP •CCNA:Security…
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Apple Consultants Network
Has anyone tried joining the Apple Consultants Network? They have two paths, which basically you can support OS-X based systems or OS-X based systems with iOS devices for business/consumer. I was thinking of joining, but I wanted to see if it was worth getting the certs for it. The one with the iOS requires quite a few but…
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Entry Level IT Self-study
In hindsight, the following introductory self-study route into the world of IT would have worked best for me. Whether or not one takes the actual certification examination is optional but, in my opinion, the knowledge and experience gained from pursuing this path or some appropriate variation of it could be invaluable in…
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LPI will make substantial changes to both LPIC-2 and LPIC-3 in 2013
Hi Maybe interesting for you
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LPIC Resources
Hey All! It's been a while since I've posted in the forums, but many of my projects have just wrapped up so I have some more free time now. As many of you know I published a book last year (it turned out ok...not as good as I had hoped), and now I'm working on growing my business and 4 blogs. One of the projects for my…
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SPSE - SecurityTube Python Scripting Expert
I know the_grinch is currently taking this. Does anyone else have experience with this course? I think after I get my CISSP results (assuming a pass), this is my next venture...prior to pursuing OSCP.
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Career path / Virtualization (VMware) or Cisco
Hello all, I'm an experienced IT guy (System Administrator at a large Enterprise). I'm now 30 years old and want a new challange. I just can't decide if I rather should go for VMware certs and switch to our VMware team or if I should go for Cisco CCNA and switch to our Network team. I really enjoy both, but I'm kinda torn…
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TOGAF - architecture framework certifications
Hi, Has anyone on the boards conquered the latest version of TOGAF. Many architects at work say its a good additional knowledge/qualification to have and helps with the high level side of project work when engaging with clients. Im just looking for some feedback of what people thought of the material and if theres any…
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LPIC-2 / LPIC-3 Exam Changes!
Got an email this morning with some upcoming changes to the LPIC exams. Upcoming Changes to LPIC-2 and LPIC-3 Following extensive consultations with industry representatives and Linux professionals, LPI will make substantial changes to both LPIC-2 and LPIC-3 in the coming year. These include the following: - Move Capacity…
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"23 IT Certifications That Mean Higher Pay"
23 IT Certifications That Mean Higher Pay CIO.com
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Rhcsa
Hey, So I was thinking about getting this certification. I have used Unix/Linux extensively in the past, but it has been a while. I am currently working on setting up an interview with a company that mentioned Red Hat skills would be very helpful to them, so that is one reason for me to pursue this certification. I had a…
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Need some help please!
Hi, I have no experience in I.t however I am currently studying towards a Comptia A+ course. I am wondering what courses to take next? I don't think I would get a job with just one course, so do i go straight onto microsoft qualifications or move onto network+ etc? Would it help to get work exp in a computer repair shop?
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CompTIA / Cisco
Hi all, after working as System Admin for more than a decade, I finally came to the decision to go for a Network Security job and work my way up. My first milestone is to get CEH certified. I browsed through a different forum which recommended following path: * A+ * Security+ * Network+ * CCNA * CEH Now I'm curious if I…
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O'Reilly In a Nutshell book
I'm now in the market for my first "In a Nutshell" book. I'm not sure which reference to buy as my long-term goal is to get the RHCSA and RHCE, but I have no experience yet. I plan to test the market after my surgery in a few months. I was prying on the UNIX in a Nutshell on Amazon. In my opinion, UNIX admins are hardcore,…
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A+, N+, S+ and ...?
Hello everybody, I know you are all sick of this question but what's next? :) I've no experience in IT field neither any college degree which sucks. (Been working with PC for the last 5 years, repairing, installing and stuff like that but that doesn't count) So this year I've discovered that there are 100s of certs…
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Is CISSP for me?
I have reached a point in my career, where I believe I should start transitioning into a more senior/management role. The field of the network security really interests me and I would like to make it my primary field of expertise. I am looking for a certification that would give me a "jump start" into that field. At first…
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Log files and host names.
Hi, Quick question, In checkpoint there is a function in smart view tracker to resolve IP in the logs. Now does this take place as each log entry is made, or only when you are viewing the logs? The reason I ask is if I look at the Logs 2 weeks after the event, is the host name I see resolved, the Device that was using the…
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hypervisor for XenDesktop
what hypervisor do you use for your XenDesktop implementation? XenServer, ESXi, Hyper-V, something else?
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Microsoft Second Shot active again
Info is here. Interesting note is the notes on the bottom say if you use it for beta exams and fail, they will send you a retake voucher good for the live test after you get your beta results. There Are beta tests active right now for Visual Studio 2012.
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How to be a good Information Security Professional ?
Hello Guys, What are the essential skills a good Information Security Professional must have? I know that one must know about Penetration Testing,Compliance/Auditing, What else should I focus on? do i need to know more about COBIT,ITIL,ISO 2700:1,Risk Management,Business Continuity Planning to start with? or about…
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Value of CCA compared to other Certification
Firstly I will like to clarify that I do not in any way want to demean the CCA Certification. A bit of background may help explaining my query. I have recently completed my MCSA and will be giving the Private Cloud in a few months. Currently I am taking a small break to clear my head before sitting down to study System…
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am i eligible for 72-680?
hi. sorry about my english. I am currently doing my post graduation, and I do not have any work experience. I liked to take a certification on windows 7. I found MCTS 72-680 test could be taken by a student. But I didn't find any exam representing 72-680 in http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx/ . Also i found…
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Remembering Network Timers?
Amongst all my tidbits of networking knowledge, I've noted that certain types of information are harder to remember / easier to forget than others. Timers are a.. female dog. Does anyone have any tips for remembering those? An understanding of a protocol doesn't help with remembering the almost arbitrary choice of a 5s or…
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cool free security training site.
Wanted to share this site I stumbled across, it offers a couple courses on infosec related topics. Training
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Pen-Testing in the UK??
Hi Guys, Just wondering if you guys know which quals are reconised in the pen-testing area in the uk?? I Have posted question like this on EH.net but nobody seemed to know. The only advise I got which was learn Everything in depth! ie, Windows, NIX, Python and networking. Which I have been doing. I am loving it. I know the…
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Which is the "most in-demand" course/ qualification(s)?
Which are the most "in-demand" qualifications? Would you say that compTIA A+ and CEH? I run a college and am thinking about offering some IT Qualifications - so Im just doing some research here. Thanks VERY much for all replies.
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HELP! Where do I start?
Hey everyone, To quickly introduce myself, I'm currently still in college;however, I'm graduating in a few months and I really want to do something that has to do with computers. My major (Communications and Business Administration) however, has nothing to do with tech, but if anyone could give me some advice from where to…
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Dell Certs?
Hey guys, I have access to the Dell training system for a temp gig I am doing. The program manager told me I can take whatever training under there that I want. Is anyone familiar with Dell certs and can recommend a few that might look good on a resume? Thanks.
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Kaplan Self-Test Software
Has anybody ever used Kaplan Self-Test Software to prepare for a certification exam? I tried one of their demos (only 5 questions) for CISSP and was actually really impressed with the thorough explanations of the answers (and even references to where the material could be found in the Shon Harris All-in-One Guide). For…
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Certs convalidation
So i heard that after the 3 years of the CompTIA Certs you have to either re-take the exam or pass another CompTIA Exam to renew all of your other certs and keep them current. My question is, what if i take say 4 certifications between now and next year, will that extend every single one of my certifications for 3 more…
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New Guy... Hello World
Hi my name is Bill... I stumbled on this page looking for some industry info and I ended up spending hours that night in the forums. I love this community!! So many of my certification/career planning questions are asked and answered here :) A little about me.. I have been around networking for a few years now. I worked…
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There’s not enough smart people in information security, says DHS
Hearing this drives me nuts. I agree that there aren't enough smart people working in INFOSEC, but the hiring managers write the position requirements so onerously that it's incredibly hard for smart people to get those jobs. And if we're going to discuss government billets, then you have to deal with the government hiring…