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Job qualification question?
The CISSP requires 4 years (have sec+) direct employment in security fields so would this job history qualify? -2 years INFOSEC manager DOD -4 years military security manager (ancillary duty) Although my military position did not have security in the title, my primary duty was a security manager.....would that qualify? I…
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First time being apart of an application dev team ~ 7 months
I must say for me it's a lot more fun but a lot more tedious as well. Testing newly develop product (software) can be very rigorous. In infrastructure I have never quite seen the amount of iterations of testing. I really enjoy how closely knit the database team and app dev team are integrated. I know this is a silly…
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Cloud Security Path?
I am mostly a data/network vulnerability security guy. I am very interested in thin client/cloud security and was wondering if cloud security is a developed field yet. Is there a career path or certification path to specialize in cloud security?
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Reading resumes from the eyes of the employer...
The organization I work for has been collecting resumes for a network security opening for some months now and since my manager's been way too busy to actually follow-up on them, he's passed me the virtual stack for my perusal. I had a hand in writing the job description (which I tilted a bit towards what I consider "real"…
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Very Rough and Dirty Draft Resume (First Attempt)
Good morning everybody, this is my first attempt in making a resume. Keep in mind that I have made it to reflect what I will have by the time I reach my Active end date (Feb 2015). This is just a quick and dirty layout of a draft, would like any feedback. I still have a year and some change left but any advice would be…
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Why are students never paid their due?
Why do companies think its OK to pay students chump change, or better yet, nothing at all, just because we're in college? We're not slaves, and we don't need your mediocre jobs. PS: I have 5 yrs work experience, yet because I am a student, they will only pay me $20/hr max. wtf? /rant
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Prospective employer lied to me...
I interviewed for a job almost 2 months ago and never heard anything so assumed I didn't get it. Well, they called me yesterday asking if I was still interested. I asked what happened with the position and they told me that the position was never filled and that HR closed it before they could fill it...I thought that was…
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I was let go today!!!!
Hey Everyone, Well I landed a entry level Tech support jobs after months and months of applying. It involved taking phone calls an typing messages in a ticketing system. It was through a Staffing firm so the pay was bad but I didn't t care it was experience. It lasted 2 weeks they liked me and said I had the knowledge but…
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Taking VoIP job with smaller company, advice appreciated!
So I accepted a job at a smaller company (750-1000 employees), starting out in a support desk role with the intention of training me into a VoIP engineer role. The interview was for a VoIP engineer type role, but since I have no previous VoIP experience, I'd been offered a lower tier position until I am trained in and show…
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New job project advice.
So i just started my new job at a hospital Yesterday. My supervisor already told me to start thinking and planning of this new project he is going to want me to work on with migrating some computers from xp to windows 7. What would you guys recommend would be the easiest and fastest way to do this with a lot of computers.
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Truth in IT job postings: What those want ads really mean
Truth in IT jobpostings: What those want ads really mean:) Job postings arekind of like online dating profiles: They give you broad overviews, sure, butmuch of what they say should be taken with a grain of salt. Just like daterswho describe themselves as "curvy" or "young at heart,"employers love using euphemisms to make…
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Need advice how to answer a question
Was working temp assignments to pay my bills. Unfortunately these assignments had nothing to do with IT. Out of desperation I took a full time job recently at a fortune 500 company. The pay and hours suck. Only thing looking good right now are the benefits..and that I am permantly employed If I am offered the opportunity…
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Company keeps listing same job once every year
Im always looking at the job market and have noticed in the last 3 yrs the same company advertises the same junior and senior cisco network engineer position at least 1 or 2 times a yr. I wanted to apply 3 yrs back but didnt have the experience now I do and the job description sounds great but Im trying to look at it with…
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Learning from a bad job/poor enviroment/etc
If you are lucky enough that you haven't experienced this yet, congrats! If you are like most other people and you have had at least one bad job, with bad mojo everywhere or just a poor work environment (or coworkers/boss)...what was your take away? What did you learn from it? I put my two weeks in yesterday after fighting…
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Hoping for a Resume Review
Hi all, Retiring in about a year after 20 yrs of Active Duty Air Force. Will be moving with the family back home to Boston, MA area. Would you please review my resume and provide me some criticism or suggestions to improve. Thanks so much in advance! V/r Robert Machado
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How much hardware knowledge does a system administrator need.
Hi I am an IT student hoping to become a system administrator specializing in Linux/Unix and security. So far I have done an Advanced Diploma of Network Security and am currently on the fourth part of Cisco CNAP for CCNA. I consider myself stronger in the software side of computing. I can research computer parts to buy for…
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Bachelor Degree Thesis topic on Network
Im trying to find thesis topic on networking. Protocols, programs, anything related to it. I am thinking of doing ccna aftwr I graduate. So something that could help me for ccna.
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Need some help USMT and MDT
Ok so I figured out the best way for us to migrate from xp to 7 is to automate it using usmt and mdt. Now the issue I have is actually setting this up. I searched everywhere and did a lot of studying and know how it works but the problem is setting it all up. Does anyone have any tutorials of how to set up an automated way…
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Intermediate network engineer
Hey All. I graduated from london in computer science. Now i got CCNA (R&S) and working hard to get CCNA (security) + CCNP (R&S). I am moving to New Zealand next month on Job search visa. I dont have any experience on network level. How to land a network engineer job without any experience? Its hard as am going through…
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Wish Me Luck - Just Started Application Process with WGU
Good evening, all. Wish me luck, I just started the application process with WGU. Thank you to -hype for the referral and to bmtuser for volunteering to refer me. It is greatly appreciated. With luck, I will be ready to go for the classes starting at the beginning of December. Can't wait to get started. Reading the posts…
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DSU vs NOVA
Ok, so I have narrowed down my list of 4 to two. Granted I have to wait until next week to find out if I am accepted to DSU but if I am then I need to decide. Do I do the NOVA CIS with a security focus- Pro's are the blended focus on Comp sci and IA plus the Early admit to the PHD Or DSU with the MSIA Pros are the Course's…
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Follow up thank you email after interview
I had a Noc interview yesturday and I think it went really well, there was only 1 question I wasn't really able to answer, san vs nas mainly b/c i don't work in a noc environment yet. after the email i met w/ HR to discuss benefts ect, he said he had 1 more phone and 1 more in person interview i think today Anyways, I…
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Looking for IT career: where do I start?
hi, I'm a 29 year old with a BA in Communication. I'm into computers and mobile technology and have a knack for technology in general. As far as experience goes, I don't have much job experience, no certificates, and not a ton of knowledge in networking, programming, etc. I know basic things and can navigate my way around…
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Just got a promotion and demotion at the same time
Edit: So the company I worked for changed all of our titles so that titles can be standardized across all of our data centers. My title got changed along with the rest of the Jr adminis to server support III which I was a little disappointed about, especially since I asked if I could be promoted to systems administrator…
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Got the job!
I accepted an offer with a reputable business-to-business IT firm yesterday. They're bringing me on as a sysadmin, with a strong potential to graduate to an engineer position after I've gained some experience with the company. It's a great step up from what I am doing now both professionally and compensation-wise. They…
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A furloughed Federal IT cyber security worker sounds off
From Major Geeks: A furloughed Federal IT cyber security worker sounds off - MajorGeeks This guy brings up a good point. Why doesn't the US government place more value on the IT Security employees that are guarding our networks?
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How to handle SSN request?
I've got a background investigation coming up, and I've been asked to provide my social security number. The intended method of delivery is print the form, fill it out, scan it, and email email it back. I'm not about to send my SSN over email. I've let my point of contact at this organization know I won't be doing that -…
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Jobs Before and After Degree's at WGU
I have found some statistical data, but nothing great. I am looking at enrolling in the Masters of Science degree at WGU and wanted to see what kind of move up I can look towards. I would like to see experiences by the people on the site. Maybe Before Job Title Years Experience Salary After Job Title Years Experience…
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To go with Coop Program or Not?
im currently enrolled at co-op program, it is 3 years in total, 2 years of study and 1 year of work. if i go with Non-Coop program, it will be only 2 years. what will be the pros/cons of both Coop and Non-Coop program in future? so, im asking you guys who are already working or not working yet, should i go with Coop…
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What would you do?
If you were making over $65k doing low level IT work such as basic help desk work and hated each day would you stay for the pay? Or would you find something still in IT more meaningful for less pay? :)
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Penn State vs WGU
Does anyone here have any experience with Penn State's online world campus? I'm interested in those who have taken technical courses or have obtained a technical degree through their schoolhouse? and for those that may have attended both Penn and WGU, how would you compare the two? Edit: Someone brought this to my…
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Want to get into networking
I'm getting or should I say at the point to where I'm becoming bored and want to move up. I've spent a year at help desk and now a year and a half as a field technician. There's hardly any projects to do and its basically become mundane.....plus the micromanaging work environment doesn't help. I've been really interested…
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Help-How or when did you know what you wanted to do in IT?
Help-How or when did you know what you wanted to do in IT? Here’s my background: I did some volunteer IT jobs. I did an internship at a computer shop and worked as a computer repair field tech. Also, I did computer repair for private clients as well. Currently, for the least three weeks I have been working at an MSP. I…
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how far can you get without a degree?
Hi all, just curious on how necessary a degree is in the IT industry. I only have 3 years at a vocational school for Networking and security. I just started a desktop support job about four months ago making 30k a year. Is it possible to move into a better position at a different company within a couple of years? What…
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Leaving a new job quickly?
I'm currently working in IT, but job hunting for a new position. I have a good lead for a security position but it might take a few months until that happens. A friend works there and he said they don't even normally contact the people back for up to 2 months until after the application. Then the interview process, etc,…
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What to expect from a phone interview
Its for a networking position.
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Potential NOC Job
There was a NOC job that I applied to a week or so ago. The job was listed as an entry-level position, requiring 0-1 years of experience. They did list vendor certifications as a preference and unfortunately I only have the A+ and Network+ at the moment. So, yesterday I received a call from someone in HR. I called back…
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How do you go about looking for a new job w/o making your current employer angry?
Hi Guys, Finally decided to create an account here because everyone has helped me so much over the past 2 years. I just turned 26 years old and am currently making about $26,000 a year in a desktop support role with a lot of server administration as well. I am very thankful for this job because the experience is absolutely…
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Extremely frustrated at current employer
So I have been at my employer for nearly a year now employed in the NOC. I came in with all my credentials listed in my avatar minus the CCNP/JNCIS that I obtained while on the job here by staying at work after hours studying. I accepted the position at a significantly lower rate than I was receiving at my prior employer…
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Fingers Crossed
Just got off the phone with a recruter for a Server Engineer position. It's direct hire and a $17k increase over what I'm currently making and NO MORE HELPDESK! The one new thing I hadn't seen was he had me take the job description and then write a paragraph about my experience with it. Once I did that, I realized how…
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Best Possible way to gain real time experience in windows system administration!
Hi guys! I am looking for a System admin role quiet for a long time, seems to me that no one wants to hire a fresher . what is the best possible way to gain experience ?. thanks in advance:)
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Programming Skills in IT
In what areas should one know programming? I'm planning to get into an area of IT that requires a bit of programming, but not as much as in software development. My guess is in areas such as network (socket) programming and database administration, coding skills are important. These are two areas I'm considering going into.
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Security Hiring, But Young People Aren't Interested?
Ran across this article and thought what a load of crap. I tend to believe that the issue comes down to most jobs wanting a ton of experience and the cleanest of backgrounds. I know when I finished school I applied for a number of security positions all over and hadn't even received a call for an interview. Also, I've seen…
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coworker arrogance
I work for a fairly large company. I've come to realize that in a small business, coworkers and managers throughout the company can have a direct effect in your working life. In the enterprise, your team mates and immediate manager effect you most. That said, a person on your team who's personality clashes with yours can…
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career advancement- help please
I'm going to try to keep it simple, I currently work in desktop support and like everyone looking to move up. I would like to do networking but I dont have experience, so I'm thinking system admin because I have knowledge and very little work experienc (the system admin teaches me when he can). My question to you is do…
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College major trouble :(
Hi everyone! So I'm in my second year of college now. And I really am thinking about majoring in Computer information Systems rather than Computer Science because I heard it is extremely difficult. But my biggest concern is will CIS get me a good job in the future? I'm planning to get my bachelor of science degree in CIS.…
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first day at new job tomorrow...
No trains running until 9am due to the weather... I have to be in work by 9 am. Do I call up, apologize and explain I will be an hour late on my first day?? Or just get a cab in??
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Business analytics and MIS
Are these same degrees? I'm a little confused between the two. They seem to send you to the same jobs though. Even anyone has any clarification between these 2 degrees
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Would a B.S. in Computers help me?
Looking for some advice. My background is that I graduated with a B.S. in Mass Communications with a concentration on Television. Yeah, I know, but it got me on the set of Sesame Street for a couple of years. But I decided I really hate freelance work (and almost all television production work is freelance) so I got into…
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College Advice, please.
Glad I found this site / forums! Anyway, my names Josh, nice to meet everyone. I was wondering if anybody had any Colleges that they recommend? You see, I have stomach and nerve problems so can not go to a Brick & Mortar College, so would have to go online. I was considering WGU but I have no prior College experience. This…
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Include short term assignments on resume?
I have two temporary assignments on my resume. One last one-day and another was 2-weeks. These are almost 3 years ago, with no possibility to gather references. Are they worth putting on my resume?
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Ok, must make life changing decision by Monday!!!
I posted a while back about a Masters degree scholarship from the department of defense I might be offered but I must quit my current job in order to attend .....Well I was offered it and must decide by Monday. Please give me any advice, suggestions, comments to help me make a more concrete decision in this as I am torn.…
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What to expect in a network engineer interview
Recently had a job offer after an interview for a network engineer tier1-2 position in Canada. I had some questions during the process and got some pretty good feedback from the community, here's the original thread: http://www.techexams.net/forums/jobs-degrees/94402-network-engineer-interview-advise.html I created this…
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Resume, question/tips
That's my resume as of right now, aiming towards Help desk/desktop support, entry network support. I live in PR, so more than likely any place I may work at, I'd have to fill in a couple of roles, since the job market in IT is so small. Eventually I'd like to get more into Network Engineering later in the future, whether…
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MBA vs MSc
So I am at a crossroads now where I am trying to decide whether I should go for an MBA or an MSc in Information Security and Assurance. I already have my B.S. in a computer-related field and also have the certs to the left <----. I was hoping to get some advice from those of you who have Masters degrees. I'm not 100% sure…
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Please critique my resume
I'm looking for an entry level help desk job. I have a little experience that's more tech support. What do you guys think. I'm currently studying for a+. Should I put that on there, or leave it for the interview?Skills Ø Installationand configuration of Microsoft Windows Operating systems Ø Proficientin Microsoft Office Ø…
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Do you have a MIS degree?
If you have a MIS degree what job did you eventually land in? with details on what that job entails
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My company is hiring...
My company is hiring a ton of network engineers over the coming months. We're picking up an additional 15 people right now, 8 more before the end of the year and another 25 or so next year. If you are qualified, interested, and in either the Pittsburgh or Cleveland area, send me your contact info and most current resume,…
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Career path advice: Software engineering or Networking
Hey guys, I've recently graduated from the university in computer science. I always thought that I would be a software engineer since how was doing well there. I was seeking for a job in a software industry but did not get one, refusing to remain unemployed i got a job as a technical support engineer (just as a stepping…
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Having 2nd thoughts about getting the CCNP-Security
I recently passed the CCNA -Security a few weeks back and was so stoked for the 4 exam gauntlet, but I haven't been finding very many jobs for the CCNP Security like have for the CCNP R&S. I'm aiming for the following job titles: JR Network Security Engineer JR Network Security Analyst JR Network Administrator I'm now…
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WGU: Is it worth it
Hey guys, first post. So thus is the situation: I have already talked to an enrollment counselor and am interested in taking the IT: Security route. I am two CLEPs away from my CCAF (Air Force degree in Information Systems), have a CCENT and taking my CCNA next week. After finishing the CCNA, CCBA security, abd the last…
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Dell Desktop Support Technician - Anyone ever had this job?
There is an opening in my area to work for Dell as a desktop support tech @ a medical facility, I'm assuming a hospital. Has anyone here worked for them in this type of role? How was it? What type of salary is to be expected? Your input is much appreciated!
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What drives you to do your best and grow?
I was thinking a little bit about this and realized that it might be enlightening to read about what drives us to be better at what we do. What is it that makes you get out of bed in the morning, why do you strive to move forward in your career? Is it just money, or is there more? I'll start: Doing a little self analysis…
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2 Job offers, need to drop one today. Need help making choice please help urgent.
My First job offer is with Redbox, Working as a Machine Support Specialist, Decent pay for a young fella like myself. But the thing is It's a 2 hour commute because I don't have a car. I'm use to commuting in my big city so this will not really be a problem. This Job is from 2pm to 10pm 4 days a week, which gives me 3 days…
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Career "cloud-proofing" for the established systems engineer
I know there are a lot of varying opinions on what "cloud" is and the impact it will have on all of us downstream. However, I don't think that we can argue there is a definate trend toward consolidation and has been for some time. Consolidation of server hardware (most of us are well on our way), consolidation of services…
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Current WGU student, question on MTA vs Comptia certs
Hi, new poster here. I started at WGU in 2010 in the general BS in IT program. I have 43 credits/8 classes left. My mentor has suggested updating my "old" degree program to the current one, which is a different catalog of courses. All the courses I've taken so far will transfer over, but all of the ones I have left to take…
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[UK / England Only] - True cost of an employee
Can't really go into details why I need this, but does anyone know what the true cost of an employee is to the company ? If someone earns £65k - 20 days of holiday plus 8 BHs ... Would that be approx. double ? How would you calculate it ?
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Possible Move to Baton Rouge from New Jersey
Hi Everyone, Had something very interesting happen to me yesterday which I wanted to get some opinions on. Bottom line...I have been working as a Messaging/Active Directory Consultant for the past 5 years. Most of my jobs have been of the 6-9 month nature. Come in....design a solution...implement the solution...train the…
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Interview tomorrow - Information Security Analyst
[FONT="]Job Description[/FONT] [FONT="]Responsible for monitoring and analyzing information security events to ensure a consistent and coordinated response to ongoing security threats. Provide traige level response to incidents identified as a threat to the confidentiality, integrity and availability of…
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C-Level pressure due to useless Vendor support
<rant> I simply don't know what to do any more. As some may have read, I have some nice issues at the moment and at this point rely on Technical Support from our vendors. These things just piling up and in addition to that now I am receiving the pressure from our management level. How do you deal with this, being right in…
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Masters in the military
Hi there, I'm thinking about joining the Navy. I have my four year degree and I was talking with a recruiter about it. Has anyone had trouble working on their masters or bachelor's while in the military? I would like to have the best chance on completing my masters and I'm not really sure if I should apply now or just work…
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Do I need to get a Bachelor's degree?
I really don't feel like it.
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WGU graduates ?
Hey I'm new to the site and was looking in to WGU. WGU looks pretty accredited how do employers look at it. I dont won't to waste my time if people look at it, and don't think its a valued education. I liked the information on it thought. I'm in Iraq right now and was trying to find a respected online college for IT…
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Getting burnt out...how to get my mojo back???
So I work security (infosec) and I really do enjoy what I do because I can see it make a difference. But as of late I have just been unhappy for some reason. I feel that I am not doing what I actually love (art) and that I am just wasting my time working for the man. I am rational enough to know I can't really make a…
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Interviewing woes
Is it too much to ask that virtualization engineers know what HA, DRS, EVC, etc are and how they work? Basic stuff covered in VCP?
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Profile of an IT Worker
Here is an interesting read. The article gives an idea of what education IT professionals have. A Statistical Profile of IT Workers - WSJ.com Here is a quote from the article: "Forget the stereotype. For one thing, most of them don't have college degrees in computer science, technology, engineering or math"
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The Department of State is hiring again
Thought I'd share this as I'm also looking into applying for the Foreign Service in the future.... Information Management Technical Specialist (United Communications) - U.S. Department of State
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Fewer than 50 percent said they were satisfied with their current IT staff.
I found this today. A tandem survey of business-unit managers found that only 39 percent thought the IT staff could regularly deliver projects on time and on budget. Fewer than 50 percent said they were satisfied with their current IT staff. Most of the problems come from management and the bean counters. They don't want…
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Jobs in Denver Colorado
Thinking about moving there early next year in jan/feb, how is the job market here? I have a few years in a help desk role looking to get a desktop job, what is the job market like? I googled unemployment rate and it seems to be OK
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Free Offensive Security at FSU
Anyone seen this yet? Offensive Security Home Page (CIS 4930 / CIS 5930) Spring 2013
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get laid off because of lack of work
last week get laid of from my network tech job because of lack of work. i don't know what to do. applied on about 15+ jobs including desktop support , network technician etc. but not getting any response. don't know what to do ??? tension is killing me... i can't even study now for my ccnp route. everything for me is just…
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Took the wrong job!
TE! I realized that I took a wrong job doing customer service level 1 support, in which I troubleshoot customers with their telecommunication problems. I took this job in haste due to hating my last job (field technician, in which the boss was a pain who worked in a different state). Its been about a month and a half and I…
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Looking for advice on making the switch from working for DOD to private sector
Hey all, I am looking for advice on making the switch from working for DOD to working in the private sector. I was active duty Air Force from 2008-2012 and for the last almost two years now I have been working as a contractor for DOD/Navy. I am looking to relocate from VA to NY to be near family and will most likely be…
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Senior Linux Systems Engineer - Minneapolis
We are growing again, need a senior linux systems manager - Sr. Linux Systems Manager | Code42 Careers
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In the real world...
Ok I am a security (information assurance) manager for DOD. My goal is to one day sever ties with the gov and go civilian with my skills. BUT one thing worries me. ...in the government they have trained me to look at the overall security posture, by doing this I know a lot of general security practices but am not…
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Hired as a Help Desk Engineer
Greetings all, I got an offer on Friday for a Help Desk engineer position and I gladly accepted it. I do have few questions regarding career path. Now although my degree is not in computer science field, I did take Cisco & MS courses in the past. With all honesty, I was aiming to kick in the IT project management section…
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Question about negociating pay
Is it bad if you lie to the hiring manager on how much you made at your last job?
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Crossing over
I'm starting to crossover into IT Management. My current position is part technical and part management. Does anyone have any recommendations for sites, books, magazines, forums, etc, on IT Management? thanks
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Current Career plan
I am currently an IT engineer of coming on 6 Years experience and I have been thinking of going for the info sec path, either to pursue pen testing or digital forensics All my experience is 1st to 3rd level tech support with a bit of desktop support and onsite cover. I have 7 microsoft certifications as well as a BSC in…
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Looking for an MS in InfoSec Online.
Ok, so after my BS is complete I want to go ahead and get my MS in InfoSec or MBA in IT. I have some requirements, must be able to do 100% online. Also, no exams, as I would prefer projects and papers that would allow me more flexibility over online proctored exams. I must be able to complete in 1 year for MBA or 1.5 for…
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Cyber Security Degree
I am currently in school at UMUC for Cyber Security. Anyone has their degree in that field? What jobs do you think I can get once I have that degree? Yes I know of some. However its some people who may know jobs that I may not have thought of...
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Cloud Jobs
A big question for a lot of people in IT for a while has been "What happens to my job if my company goes to the Cloud?" I’ve always said the jobs don’t go away, it’s only where they are that changes. Here’s an example of a Cloud job for those that are curious. Chicago IT/Operations Service Engineer - GFS 846183 Job - IL,…
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Interviewing candidates
I'll be interviewing some virtualization engineer candidates next week. Should I be mean and introduce myself as someone with 4 VCAPs or not?
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Interesting interview anecdote
I've been the sole technical person in the process for hiring a new "senior endpoint engineer" (desktop-oriented systems engineer) at my company. We went through interviews the other day, and the results were interesting and may add some perspective. Skip to fourth paragraph if TL;DR. We had two candidates. There were…
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Network Engineer Interview advise
I recently started applying 2 weeks ago for network positions as I heard the job market was pretty bad and might take a while to get a job. After the first week I was flooded with job interviews and was pretty busy going everywhere for interviews. I would like some advice on a particular company I applied to. This is for a…
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Do you guys use any apps?
So Monday starts my official first day at my new IT Technician job and I am really excited. With all the technology us IT Professionals use, what apps do you guys use to help you on the job. I currently have the Note 3 and would love to have some apps that would help on the job. What do you guys use?
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Resume critique and what website can I use to look for jobs?
I used career builder, craigslist, monster. can you guys look at my attachment of the resume to see how can I twick it better?
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Georgia Tech Online Masters in CS Program now has Applications open!
Anyone going for it? I think I may wait until next Fall, to see how the program is, but for $7k for the whole program from that great of a school, it is hard to ignore.
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Job Interview
I've been out of IT world at least working day to day as a technician since 2005. My current role unfortunately means I don't touch the technology nearly as much anymore but do work with, interact and essentially find ways to get a project completed. I recently applied for a systems analyst position and was shocked to get…
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Time to update skills--get a degree
Probably embedded in one of the threads is a situation similar to mine. But, I'm cutting right to the chase by asking my own question. I'm a 48-year-old woman who's been working as a programmer since I was 18... wow... 30 years! Back then I was able to get a job by just knowing how to program and then getting a quick tech…