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ForestPrep & DomainPrep Exch2k3 Quest.
I was wondering is their anyway when running forestprep and domain prep from the exchange server 2003 setup c.d on another server say domain controller that has the schema master role, however you do not wish to install exchange on this box, but how come the install directory still points to C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr when…
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Study suggestions
This summer I finally passed 70-270 exam. I just this week took and passed the RFID+ exam. I've had my targets on MCDST and the upgrade to MCITP for a while. I bought both Microsoft books and the Transcender study tests. Any recommendations or suggestions on studying and taking the tests? Are there other reference…
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Wsus
I am completing my studies for 70-291. Where did you get the information for WSUS in the 70-291? From the 70-290 or from where? Thanks.
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Passed 70-290 today!
887/1000. Not a bad score :) Taking 70-291 next week. Been studying for these for over 4 months now. Question is this. I have 270, 290, and MCDST. Once I get 291... will it automatically update on my transcript showing MCSA2003? Thanks!
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The 70-642 Exam
Hey guys/gals, This is my first time posting here. I didn't read the forum rules thoroughly, so please excuse me if I'm committing a 'faux pas'. I am studying for the 70-642 exam using the LabSim dvd. The information and presentation is solid in my opinion, but I am having a real difficult time passing the Practice exams.…
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Exam 70-660?
Anyone taken this? (Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS): Windows Internals) What material did you use for study?
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The box is done!
Passed the 294 today even though I was sick and took way too long from starting to study and taking the test. Chock another one up to the MN crew. I actually have to buy another book now that I have gone through my box-o-fun...weird. -J
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A Look Ahead..70-351
Just looking ahead some (haven't taken 299 or 298 yet...almost there) but what's a good book for 70-351? Amazon shows ISA for 2004. I read some reviews and some say you could use the 70-350 with for the 70-351. Want to make sure if that book is ok to use.
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Passed 298 MCSE & :SEC DONE!!!!
Finally I am "done" my MCSE certification! It took 1 year and 1 week to get all the exams done. I had originally had it booked for last week but had to reschedule to make room for an ISF certification course for work. I (just)passed with a (not-so)perfect 700! My score for this exam is proportional to the amount of study…
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Another DISM/WinPE issue...
So I have managed to get the 64 bit version of WindpwsPE to work with Hyper-V but I am having issues witht he x86 ISO. I am getting the following error when I boot to the ISO: File: \windows\system32\DRIVERS\storvsc.sys Status: 0xc000035a Info: Windows failed to load because a critical system driver is missing, or corrupt.…
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Revising for the 70-284
Hi Guys Whats the 70-284 exam like, i mean is a hard exam to pass how many questions is there and whats the pass score. Any help well appricated Cheers J
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Exchange Exam Recommendation
I have jsut become a MCSE 2003 and I am looking to take an exam for Exchange. We currently use 2003 here and are a single domain; therfore nothing really complicated is going on. However, my goal is to learn more about Exchange and becoming a better administrator of it. So I am looking for some advice and recommendations…
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TrainSignal, CBT Nuggets or TestOut.
I started this week and ordered the Sybex 70-640 book. It has the best reviews on amazon and I simply loved the CCNA book. I think the videos has been very good as a final preparation before the exam. I would like to know which of these is best regarded in the forums. Thanks in advance...
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70-648 Scheduled
Taking it a week from tomorrow. Feeling pretty confident! Wish me luck!
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Domain Admin can't view / change users calendar permissions... ???
I'm poking around, and looking on google - anyone have any idea why this would happen? It's only for one calendar. Thanks!
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MMC groups and users "Access Denied"
Hello Everyone... Im getting a message of access denied in one of the machines in the domain... I have access to most machines via mmc console but when I try to connect to a specific machine in the domain it says access denied. Im using Win2k3 domain, and the machine that does not let me access is a winXP machine. Im a…
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Question about booting, ASR & floppys
I have been doing some studying, and my question is this... I constantly read about what to do on installations using floppys. However floppys are obsolete, so...?? What is used, a CD-R, CD-RW, I know the technology for writing to a CD is different than writing to a floppy, so how does all the booting from floppy, and…
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70-647
Hi As you know I passed the 70-646 exam. I've now completed the self study for 70-647 so have now turned to practisinig and preparing for the exam. It sure feels like another 70-646 James
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Sbs 2008 70-653
Anyone had a crack at this yet?
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MCITP Advice
I'm new to the world of certification, and I'm planning on doing the following exams: First Exam: MCITP: Server Administrator * Exam 70-640 -- TS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory, Configuring * Exam 70-642 -- TS: Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure, Configuring * Exam 70-646 -- Pro: Windows Server 2008, Server…
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Anyone finding the studying for 686 to be repetitive/monotonous?
I am a pretty big deployment geek when it comes to Vista, so most of this feels like repeat information. The only real things that have even changed are booting from VHD, deprecation of other tools for DISM, new policies for IE8, and a few upgrades for MDT 2010. Otherwise its basically all the same as Vista. Im blowing…
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Unknowingly configured domain as NetBIOS?
I've just started to realize (possibly) that my domain controller has been communicating to the clients in my domain (EAD.local) through NetBIOS. I discovered this when I checked "Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" under the WINS tab in Advanced TCP/IP Settings, and was suddenly unable to access the shared files on my domain…
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Checking In/Career Status Update
Hello everyone, It's been awhile since I had the time to post, so I wanted to check in and let you guys know how things are going. I now travel all across the USA. The main markets where I work are Chicago, New York, Orlando, and San Francisco. I've done extremely well with my classes and students with many students…
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70-284 First or 70-236?
Do you all think it would be helpful for me to take the 70-284 first since this exam will give me the messaging credential for MCSA also I can learn in general about how Exchange works, and then start the 2k7 track, do you all think this is a good idea? Current environment does not have exchange 2003 though only 2k7, but I…
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Forwarding Exchange 2003 mail
I'm trying to forward e-mail from an exchange account to an external e-mail address such as hotmail. I've setup an additional "contact" in Active directory and pointed it to the hotmail account. The "Exchange account" is then forwarded to the "contact" E-mail to the exchange account is being delivered to the hotmail…
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GPO Exception ?
Hello again! I had asked a question about where to apply the policy to disable the Licence Logging Service, and I found the location. (With some help! ) Here is the problem... I don't want to disable it on all DC's. Is there a way to setup an exception for just the ones I want to disable this service on? Thanks for the…
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WAIK and System Architecture
So I have been thinking about how the WAIK works and what I would do in my environment if I were to deploy Win 7 on the systems here. Now back in the day I did some imaging using BDD, imagex, etc for Vista. This was just after Vista came out. All my knowledge of that is gone. But I was wondering; how does the WAIK work…
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question for those that have taken 294
How well does the MSPress book for 294 stack up against the actual exam? Does it do a good job at presenting the info as it appears on the test? The book for 293 was inadequate as many here have stated. I've not seen many negative comments regarding the book for 294. Any input is appreciated. thanks
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Level of difficulty
I am getting some books and study guides. What's the level of difficulty on a 0 - 10 scale. 0 being the easiest.
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DNS Generalization
In the 70-291 CBT Nugget series in the DNS sections I believe James Conrad the instructor mentions something like in general to resolve down the DNS hierarchy you would use stub zones or delegation. To resolve up the hierarchy and out to the Internet you would use forwarders/conditional forwarding. Is this an okay…
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Need some advice...I want to move forward! ASAP
Hey guys Thanks in advance for the advice. So currently I have A+ cert and I've taken 70-290 earlier this year. I want to increase my knowledge in Microsoft servers to eventually get in to consulting. any advice of what track to take would be great. Even if it's focusing on MCSA Thanks guys
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Passed with 842!! Now MCSA!!
Really happy! Just got back from testing centre, and I am still very shocked at how simple a lot of the questions were! I was expecting the level of detail to be much higher. I actually struggled more with the 290! Maybe I got lucky with the question pool - who knows. As per previous posts really, content was mostly DNS…
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Question about MCSA & AD
So, I've transfered my CompTIA credits to Microsoft, and have taken (and passed) the 70-620 Vista exam. I'm getting ready to move on to an MCSA credential. Most people seem to take the 70-290 and then 291. I have very little knowledge of Active Directory. I just started watching a CBT Nuggets video and they jump right in…
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Working on Future cert
Taken the class in march and reviewing a bit anything that i should focus on or is it widespread?
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passed 293 yesterday....barely!!
Hello. I have been viewing these forums for about a month and figured this is a good time for my first post. I just passed my 293 yesterday with a score of 727. I wish I did better but a pass is a pass. I have only been working in the computer field for a little over a year and I am a PC tech. I don't get to work with…
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Upgrade MCDST to Vista or Win7?
I am not sure if this question has been asked already, but what do you all recommend I upgrade my MCDST eventually to? I'm leaning towards Windows 7 since it looks like Microsoft is pretty much phasing out Vista. I'm not really in a hurry and in my current environment I do not use either vista or windows 7 just thinking…
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70-270 MS IT Academy Book??
Has anyone used this book to take the test? Meaning is it sufficient study material? I only ask because I have this book and the accompanying lab manual from when I took the college course a couple years ago. This is the book I'm talking about: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/book.aspx?ID=7722&locale=en-us Just…
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7-290 scheduled finally!
Well after procrastinating for such a long time, I decided to put the gas pedal to the floor and schedule the test for next friday the 9th. I've been taking practice tests and have found my weakest area is in Managing and Maintaining Physical and Logical Devices (1.0) and a little bit in Managing and Maintaining access to…
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Passed this morning - what a LONG test
I took this exam this morning and passed with a 795. I have read all of the comments about this exam, but after making 905 on the 70-291 exam I figured I was in pretty good shape with this exam. This is a warning - THIS EXAM IS BRUTAL compared to 291. All 50 questions were LONG, and you have to know PKI and GPO in detail…
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Any Tips
Any tips before I go in to sit this exam in about 2hr?
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GPO random question
User and computer configuration User account policies: - password length - lockouts - etc These all have to do with the user, why on earth are they found under "computer configuration?" Every now and then I can't find a policy just from browsing directories that I would assume would be logically located there, only to find…
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Is there an Eval version of Vista Ultimate?
Does MS offer an eval version of Vista Ultimate, you know, one of those 120-day versions, that can be used for exam prep purposes? I have Vista Business, but need Ultimate for the 620 exam. If not, any suggestions? Thanks!
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written exam 70-528 before 536
Hi, I have passed exam 70-528, Web-based Client Development . But i have written the exam 70-536 (prerequisite for this one) after this. I have also got a mail from Microsoft that i have cleared MCTS. Still i am in doubt. Is this valid?
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70-290 Today
I'm taking this thing in two hours. This will be my fourth MS exam in six months, it's starting to take it's toll. I'm finding it harder and harder to stay motivated. Anyways, hopefully I have done enough work. :
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Mounting a VHD in Server 2008 (NOT R2) or Vista
I've been studying for the 686 beta exam and have been haing some issues using the WAIK. I posted one of my issues recently and I'm still wrking on getting it resolved. But I was trying to find a way to mount my VHDs on my existing Server 2008 system. It's not R2 so I could not do it natively using dskpart like you see in…
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Passed 70-649 today – Hard!
That was exhausting. I got a 700. Talk about escaping with the skin of my teeth! My scores: 640 AD: 700 642 Net: 850 643 Apps: 880 First 19 questions were Apps, which is what I thought would be the hardest. Next 20 questions were Net, which I thought I’d do OK at, and did. Last was 9 questions for AD, it seemed like I had…
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70-621 Scheduled for 9/21
Using Transcender and CBT Nuggets to cram. FYI: 25% off certain tests via Prometric (70-621 included!) http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/offers/Career.aspx
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Vista gets its own forum, maybe it's time for a Windows 7 area
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Passed 299
Hai guys, Passed 299 with 1000. ........yes, i wouldn't say it was easy but after the hangover of 291 it was pretty much straight forward. Also i put in lot of hours on PKI and IPSEC. Worked through Transcender, MS Press, CBT Nuggets and Labsims. Anybody planning to take this exam be aware to understand the concepts of…
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Elective Exams
Hi There Can i do a the 70-284 instead of doing the 70-270 or do you have to do a client exam the 70-284 is a elective exam. I find it eaiser to motivate myself on revsion ect when i am learning new stuff. So what i am basically wanting to ask is do you have to do a client exam. I have no A+ or anything like that or can i…
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Free Practice Exams for SQL 2008
Thanks for sharing !
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users not able rename folder after deny delete subfolder and files
hi all is it possible to prevent users from delete folder or subfolders , mintime being able to rename it I tryed deny delete subfolder and files from sharing and security spacial permission , but got the other problem users now can't rename them
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Anyone be kind enough to create 71-685 Resoruces
Hi there Just to spend this weekend at home to study for the 71-685 exam, however, no glue where to start for revision. Please help !
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Having trouble adding a second server to domain?
Hi, Only starting out so its probably something simple :S Created one DC (Server01) which has the domain smallbusiness.local (keeping it simple). Created a second Server (Server02 - I know, origional) which currently is on a work group as when ever I try to add it to the same domain it errors. I'm using VMware Workstation,…
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Winner Winner Chicken Dinner...
WHEW... never been so scared... Got an 884... now time to study for 298 for tomorrow and 299 on Sunday. wish me luck.. no celebrations yet.
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Trying to understand Fas Logon Optimization
I'm not really sure how this works. Description of the Windows XP Professional Fast Logon Optimization feature This term keeps coming up, 'cached credentials.' Not sure what this means from an XP point of view. Does this get applied during the start up script or the login script? Also it talks about the 'network to be…
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Singed Up for a Regular Test and got a Beta ??
I was wondering if anyone has since this before. I week or so ago I took the 70-284 (Exchange) I passed and everything is fine. However in looking at my score report this morning as I was scanning the document I noticed my test number said it was the 72-284. Isn't 72 a beta exam? has anyone else seen something like this…
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Exam booked for 24 Sept
Well finally finished the MSPress Book and the Syngress book (Syngress by far better) A flick through - Microsoft Windows Server 2003 PKI and Certificate Security (To indepth!!!) Test Out and CBT Nuggets (Test Out better) now last minute practice labs and away for the exam on the 24 Sept Wish me luck
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Issue setting up DC with DNS Service
Greetings, I'm trying to setup a DC correctly for 70-270. An my work has given some training disks called Train Signal which I am using. I am able to setup the DNS service ok, however the weird thing is that I have created the forward lookup zone/reverse lookup zone. I created a Host A entry under the forward, however it…
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Passed 70-284!
Just took 70-284 and passed with an 843! I used the sybex book and all of the testing materials that came with it as well as the experience i've gained throughout the years. Overall it wasn't to bad, I was alittle disappointed there were no sims, I love those. Alot of cluster, Front end/back-end and recipient policy…
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298-299 really?
I know I heard it and seen that you could study 299 material and take both 298 and 299 in the same day. Is this realistic? Not doubting anyone, just myself a little. I just want to make sure cause I'm studying 299 material now, and if I decided to take the 298 as well, I don't want to look at at question on 298 and be like…
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Problem w/ DNS Dynamic Registration *Resolved*
I'm having trouble in VirtualBox with a client which is a server 2003 being able to register itself in DNS with its A/PTR records. Below are the troubleshooting steps/things I've noticed.. Does anybody know what is going wrong here? Thanks in advance. DNS server and client can only ping by IP and not by NAME.I think reason…
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3rd times a.............
No make that 4th times a charm. Finally passed 293 on my 4th attempt. Scored a 781. I'm pleased to be finished with this bugger. Moving onto 294 now.
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Quick question ref snapshotting
I have a question about using snapshotting in hyperV, If i have issue with a domain controller and roll back to a previous snapshop, does replcation in AD still occur? In my under standing of replication DC1 will replicate to DC2 based on the USN number. If i make a change to DC1 and it replicates to DC so USN are #100…
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Passed 290 today now on to the beast!
I just passed 70-290 with a score of 900 today. I wasn't sure if I was going to pass or not. Going for MCSA so now it's on to the beast for me. What are the best areas to focus on when studying for 70-291?
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Passed 70-647, now MCITP:EA
Passed the 647 today with a score of 929 to earn my MCITP: Enterprise Administrator. I passed the 649 two weeks ago, but with the holidays there were no open test times so I had to wait until today to take the exam. I put the time to good use by reading the 70-647 MS Training Kit - the first time I ever read an entire…
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how do unlock my files?
Hey windows 7 gurus, i have windows 7 ultimate and i want to edit some files in my profile on my machine. get this. i am logged in as admin of the machine but there are little gold locks on my files how in the he double tooth picks can I edit my own files? huh? logged in as admin and I cant edit my user profile files?…
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Setting up a backup server
well at work i am getting the chance to turn our novell server into a windows 2003 backup server in case our main server crashes. Well i have been doing research and asking around and im not really sure, what to do or how to go at it. What i have discovered so far is what appears to be load balancing but can be used as a…
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Question on MCSE
I got my MCSA 2003 by passing 70-270,70-290,70-291 & A+, Net+. I just passed Security +. To get MCSE can I use the Security + for the one design test and take 70-293 & 70-294?
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83-640
I've been going through the MS-Press book for the 70-640, they changed the exam since I started studying over to the 83-640. I'm fairly confident working with the GUI, but am having trouble with Core Install. The commands in the book don't appear to be working properly. I don't want anyone to break the NDA, but I've looked…
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Recovering an Exchange 2007 SCC using the RecoverCMS switch
Hi all, I'm studying how to recover with the RecoverCMS switch, so my question is: is useful this command when ALL nodes are lost and not just for recovering one? If it was one, it should be sufficient evirating that failed node from the cluster and redoing for that or a new all the procedure (make it a node, reinstall…
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Passed 70-293 today !!!
Passed with an amazing 983 , I did pretty well in my 291 exam so I wasn’t really too tense about this one,but I didn't really think that I would do this well,, ,The questions were really long and their were a lot of simulations and drag and drop questions, but based on the material that was questioned on, in the exam once…
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prevent users download anything
hi all I enabled group policy to prevent download file , user configuration/administartive templates/windows components/restrict file download , however still users able downlaod enything how can I stop users to download enything using GPO
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anyone register for the beta 71-686: PRO: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Techn
has anyone registered for the beta 71-686: PRO: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician Beta Exam Announcements
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We need a Win 7 Forum!
Webmaster hear our plea! We sure could use a forum for the 70-680, 70-685, 70-686 and upgrade exams. Johan, if the database issues are resolved, could you do that for us?
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Anyone here taken 71-685 or 71-686 yet ?
If you did, please shed some light for us without breaking the NDA : )
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JockVSJock's path to 70-270 cert
Greetings, I'm going to be posting my progress, notes and anything else that may come across my mind while trying to knock out this cert. I just got my books and got the following: -Exam Cram 2 by Dan Balter -WinXP Pro 2nd Edition by MS press Read the 1st chapter today in Exam Cram and need to go back and take notes and…
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MCSE Done!
Passed my 70-297 today and have my MCSE now. This test was weird I dont think I was as prepared as I should have been. Got something like a 727. Not sure where I am heading from here yet. Thoughts?
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Need some DNS Forwarder Clarification
Hey guys, So I'm finally getting serious about finishing my MCSA, and in the process trying my best to get my head around DNS. So based on my limited knowledge so far, One should almost never use a forwarder instead use a stub zone? And from my understanding stub zones only have the minimal records like about the name…
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need help for exam prep.
I need help with the exam prep for the 70-291. What kind of lab setup would help me ace the test( I have no windows server experience) Books to accomplish the above. And a really good practice exam ( One that does not mirror the actual exam but helps me test my knowledge on the subject) Has the exam changed in the last two…
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FINALLY... got my MCSE!
last week i took and passed 70-298. it's been a long time coming, over a year, but i've completed my NCDA, as well as my MCSE: Security. 6 more months and i'll have my bachelors in Information Systems Management. it's been a tough year... full time school, full time network admin job, and twins at home! i'm looking forward…
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Time to get it done
So I have been *cough* studying *cough* for the 83-640 since June 15th and I think I just need to schedule my exam and get it done and over with. Ok, so mostly I have been procrastinating this whole time, as I should have done this well over a month ago. I review pretty much every day during lunch, and IF I can make myself…
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70-290 sims
How many Sims did you have on your 290? What Sims were they? How many questions total?
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Questions about AGDLP implementation
I am a little confused about the AGDLP implementation process. Here's my setup: I have an OU named sales with 10 users accounts. I place the the user accounts into a global group (called sales_accounts), then I place that group into a domain local group (called sales_permissions), then I go to to my shared folder called…
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70-284 Done MCSA:Messaging
Just left the Prometric center passed with an 895. I had 50 questions. Used CBTNuggets primarily along with some of the practice test that came with the book and of course the book (MS Press). Now on to my final two before finally after years in the business being an MCSE.
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Something about the 70-271
Hello everyone, I'm preparing for my MCDST and am very aware that this is a 2 courses exams. I've been reading a lot of post about this course and most particularily the 70-270, but for me I'm starting with the 70-271 so I'm just wondering if anyone have any advice about this first part of this exams in consideration of…
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70-290 - SUS v WSUS
I have different study materials of varying publishing dates, can someone tell me if WSUS has replaced SUS on the actual test now?
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70-648 advice
I have just bought this book (Amazon.com: MCTS Self-Paced Training Kit (Exams 70-648 & 70-649): Transitioning Your MCSA/MCSE to Windows Server® 2008 (9780735626331): Orin Thomas, Ian McLean: Books) to study for the above exam. It looks like for the 648 you only need to read up to chapter 10 can somebody confirm that this…
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Microsoft market share in DB...
I would like to know which one is the biggest, Oracle or microsoft? I am talking about Database software, of course. A friend wanted me to ask here. He has some experience with Microsoft and was about to start the MCITP: DBA, but was suggested to check Oracle's options by soomebody in his company.
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70-646 - boring?
Hi Although I enjoyed learning 7-646 via following labs, I'm finding doing the pratice questions very boring. I've never felt so un-motivated doing any of the exams in the past like I'm finding this one. I find the test questions easy however have real trouble concentrating so I end up doing the odd question here and there…
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Failed Again
Well I failed again, and what's weird is I thought I had this test nailed. I got a 643 and yet I aced Manage and Maintain an Active Directory Infrastructure section of the test and almost aced two other sections. I had 44 questions total. 5 drag and drops, 2 Sims(which I aced) and the rest were multiple choice. The only…
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Confusion about the UAC
Hey all, I'm taking my 70-620 here on Friday and I'm feeling really confidant about passing. My only confusion comes from the UAC where my practice question says "prompt for administrators" or "prompt for standard users". Does that mean it will ask for admin or standard user credentials? Or is it saying that it will only…
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Woot! Passed 298, MCSE 2003 now!
I crammed for this test with the MS Press book and also bought the transcender test exams. The transcenser was my saving grace, as this test was not super technical but more of comprehension and getting used to the format was huge. Anyways, I got a 757. Not sure if I can say how many testlets there were or how many…
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Passed the 298!!
I passed this morning! Got a 757. Had 5 testlets and a total of 34 questions. This is definitely an exam where you need good time management skills. I read the questions, then skimmed through the info for the answer. I think I'll head for Windows 7, then the MCITP upgrade route next.
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Passed 70-646
Sat the 70-646 this morning and passed with an 850. As expected, I was heavily tested on the new features of Server 2008. Overall, I felt this was a well-rounded exam with questions dealing with WDS, DHCP, DNS, GPOs, NAPs, NLBs, Clustering, WSUS and Terminal Services. Only 40 questions, all multiple choice-no sims or drag…
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Practice tests for 83-640
Has anyone tried 83-640 tests from SelfTest or Transcenders? I usually get the SelfTest product, but these are pretty expensive, so I'm hesitating. SelfTest is $159 and Transcenders is $199. (Even though they are probably the same product.) Has anyone tried a different vendor's practice test that worked for them for this…
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Assign EFS permission to groups
Hi guys i'm studying for 83-640 and i came across EFS permissions,could you guys tell me what's the best and short way to assign them?this may sound as a silly question but i don't have much experience on EFS thanks guys! Do you guys have any tips for this exam?83-640 Active Directory?
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I just randomly booked the test for sept. 30th
So I was having an extremely hard time trying to focus and study for this test. So I just booked it for end of this month. Randomly chose the day and time. I have barely studied for the test lol but I have 2 years of experience working with the stuff. Think this was the right thing? Hopefully it was motivation enough to…
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70-620 and 70-622
Just a quick question I have already passed my 70-620 and I have booked my 70-622 in a couple weeks. Once I have passed my 70-622 will it make me a MCITP: Enterprise support technician?
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Isa 2006 70-351
I have been studying this for about 2 weeks now. I have gone through the Microsoft ISA Server 2006 Unleashed book and the ISA 2004 CBT Nuggets twice. The only thing that seems a bit complex is the exchange publishing and some of the stuff dealing with ISA arrays. Otherwise it seems real easy. ISA seems more extensive then…